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Old 06-28-2006, 12:00 AM   #16
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Oh yeah! I knew it was Animal Farm but made the same mistake.
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Old 06-28-2006, 12:06 AM   #17
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LMP & Gibby, thanks for your detailed responses!

Wow. I knew the basic concept of the album as to what the dogs, pigs and sheep represented but had no idea about the sheep revolting against the dogs and such. I haven't read Orwell's 1984 although I would like to.


I think LMP meant Orwell's Animal Farm, not 1984. Animal Farm is amazing. 1984 is too, so you should read it anyway! Animal Farm is an easy read (I read it around age twelve) but it's brilliant. The Animal Farm/Animals connection only hit me later, but the similarities are definitely there. The pigs represent the leaders in the novel. I don't want to spoil it, but the ending to Animal Farm is one of my favourite fictional endings of all time.

Roger Waters has denied that Animal Farm had any influence on his writing. If he's telling the truth, then it's the greatest coincidence of the 20th century.

EDIT: I type too slowly.
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I had to read it for school, and it was definitely my favorite book of the year

Silly Roger Waters, false allegations are for kids.
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Not related to the theme or anything, but I never get tired of watching this this:

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Four Legs GOOD!!!!!


Two Legs BAAAAAAA AAAADDDD!!!


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Well, Roger probably wrote it with his wife at the time in mind, but both parts and their meanings are still ambiguous enough that they can apply to people in general. I don't think it's only about her and that's that. Has to relate to the overall theme. It's interesting, though, that Waters might be labelling himself as one of the dogs. Makes sense, in a way. There are even some lines at the end of Dogs itself that could apply to him. For instance: "Who was born in a house full of pain?"

I love analysing lyrics, especially when the lyrics are complex enough to actually analyse. Part of what makes Pink Floyd circa 1968-1983 so fun to be a fan of.
I too love to look deeper into lyrics and Floyd is so much fun to do this. I'm not sure if anyone is really into the Floyd ablum the Final Cut but it is so full of fantastic imagery and all that I went through high School disecting every word actually thier whole catalogue was fun to do that.
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Two Legs BAAAAAAA AAAADDDD!!!


My high school history teacher used to scream that out whenever anyone tilted backwards on their chairs. The other kids in my class didn't get it.
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My high school history teacher used to scream that out whenever anyone tilted backwards on their chairs. The other kids in my class didn't get it.


I had a geometry teacher who would yell "Doodleberries!" or "Doodleberry Bunkers!" and variations of that to replace saying shit or son of a bitch.

It turned out that doodleberries meant testicles, but she didn't know that, so when she said "Oh my sweet doodleberries!" the class erupted in laughter.
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I too love to look deeper into lyrics and Floyd is so much fun to do this. I'm not sure if anyone is really into the Floyd ablum the Final Cut but it is so full of fantastic imagery and all that I went through high School disecting every word actually thier whole catalogue was fun to do that.
The Final Cut is my favourite Floyd album behind Animals. I've listened to it obsessively for years now, and I never get tired of it. The lyrics are absolutely stunning from start to finish (excluding Not Now John, which is a little on the ugly side but still sounds cool.)

The title track is so beautiful and so moving...


Through the fish-eyed lens of tear-stained eyes
I can barely define the shape of this moment in time
And far from flying high in clear blue skies
I'm spiralling down to the hole in the ground where I hide

If you negotiate the mine field in the drive
And beat the dogs and cheat the cold electronic eyes
And if you make it past the shotguns in the hall
Dial the combination, open the priesthole
And if I'm in I'll tell you...

There's a kid who had a big hallucination
Making love to girls in magazines
He wonders if you're sleeping with your new found faith
Could anybody love him?
Or is it just a crazy dream?

And if I show you my dark side
Will you still hold me tonight?
And if I open my heart to you
Show you my weak side
What would you do?

Would you sell your story to Rolling Stone?
Would you take the children away and leave me alone?
And smile in reassurance as you whisper down the phone
Would you send me packing?
Or would you take me home?

[Insert saddest guitar solo ever]

Thought I ought to bare my naked feelings
Thought I ought to tear the curtain down
I held the blade in trembling hands, prepared to make it but...
Just then the phone rang
I never had the nerve to make the final cut.



I challenge any songwriter to come up with anything better than that.
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The Gunner's Dream is my favorite off of The Final Cut with The Final Cut in a close second.

such an amazing album
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can anyone please tell me what this is about?

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That's my favourite Corporal Clegg video! It's worth it to watch all five parts. Part two's the best, though. I love it that the dinner is going along innocently enough until David Gilmour pours champagne into Roger Waters' lap...then all hell breaks loose! The tension was there right from the beginning.

EDIT: Here they all are.

Part One:


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Part Four
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its great to see them all having fun......

I wonder what they think of those videos now
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I wonder what they think of those videos now
I think Roger would be quite proud of the way he punched Gilmour in the face.

It's always nice to see the fun side of Pink Floyd. People often label them as overly serious and depressing... There is NOTHING serious or depressing about this:

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That stuff is hilarious! And I thought my family dinners were eventful...WHOA!

It's so sad how Syd went nuts...but also amazing how they resurrected, at the same time. That last clip almost documents that transition, with Roger's incredible lip-syncing.
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