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Old 10-04-2004, 08:37 PM   #16
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XXXVI



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Lemme know when Peyton has 2 rings and 2 SB MVP's

oh, by the way

Manning in his biggest game of his life vs the Patriots...

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IMO, Peyton Manning is a better QB than Tom Brady is.
Peyton's in a system where he can put up big stats, he has a future hall of fame receiver in Harrison, Brady has neither, yet has won 2 SuperBowls, and also 2 SuperBowl MVP's.
Peyton's a fantasy football MVP, Brady's a championship MVP.
What is Manning's won-loss percentage as starter?
Brady's is currently highest in league history I believe.
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Old 10-05-2004, 06:02 AM   #18
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sadly that colts team is already done they have major salary issues and can't invest in D fense. Polian has always built teams that were too light on the defensive side of the ball.



Manning fans just be glad your team wont get embarassed in 4 superbowls like the previous polian team...because they just can't beat the patriots.
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i love these manning threads
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Newflash for Tom Brady fans:

You point to his super bowl MVPs like they mean something, but they don't. Anyone who watches football knows Tom Brady was NOT the most valuable player of that superbowl, Ty Law was. Without him the Carolina receivers would have ran all over them and they would have scored 50 points. The NFL never gives the MVP to a defensive player, so that eliminates half the guys and always tries to give it to someone who sells, such a QB like Brady. Stick him on a team that's not complete and he's nothing. Anyone remember the AFC Championship game when the Steelers pounded his ass until he got hurt and then Drew Bledsoe came in and led then to a comeback. Brady doesn't even win that first SB MVP if he stays in that game; which reminds me of how Pittsburgh is going to ruin New England's run this week. GO BLACK AND GOLD!
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Newflash for Tom Brady fans:

You point to his super bowl MVPs like they mean something, but they don't. Anyone who watches football knows Tom Brady was NOT the most valuable player of that superbowl, Ty Law was. Without him the Carolina receivers would have ran all over them and they would have scored 50 points. The NFL never gives the MVP to a defensive player, so that eliminates half the guys and always tries to give it to someone who sells, such a QB like Brady. Stick him on a team that's not complete and he's nothing. Anyone remember the AFC Championship game when the Steelers pounded his ass until he got hurt and then Drew Bledsoe came in and led then to a comeback. Brady doesn't even win that first SB MVP if he stays in that game; which reminds me of how Pittsburgh is going to ruin New England's run this week. GO BLACK AND GOLD!
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Ty Law had a rather subpar game in SB 38 -- he and a safety blew a coverage that led to Carolina's last TD, and I think he got beaten for a deep score somewhere else.

Brady, meanwhile, was 32/48, 354 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT. He definitely deserved that MVP.

The SB 36 MVP was a little more dubious -- I would have proposed chucking the MVP award entirely and awarding it to the team, sort of like what the Pats did to the opening intros -- but Brady's final drive -- 5/8, with two of the three incompletions being spikes -- probably sealed the deal.
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Newflash for Tom Brady fans:

Anyone remember the AFC Championship game when the Steelers pounded his ass until he got hurt and then Drew Bledsoe came in and led then to a comeback. Brady doesn't even win that first SB MVP if he stays in that game; which reminds me of how Pittsburgh is going to ruin New England's run this week. GO BLACK AND GOLD!

So, by your argument, Bledsoe is a better quarterback than Brady. Interesting.

Obviously, you're still a bit hurt about that game three years ago. Bledsoe didn't lead the team to a comeback. It was a close game at the time Brady got hurt, and he certainly wasn't having any problems on the drive he was leading when the injury occured. Bledsoe merely finished it off with the last two plays.

It was special teams that won it that day. It had nothing to do with Bledsoe coming in and leading a comeback. It would have been the same if Brady had remained in the game, because those 14 points off special teams had nothing to do with him. I suggest you search your memory bank before making such statements...

As for this weekend, well, we'll see. I think highly of your rookie QB for the years to come, but Big Ben wasn't very convincing this past weekend.

And don't place your hopes on the opposing kicker blowing it this time.
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Newflash for Tom Brady fans:

You point to his super bowl MVPs like they mean something, but they don't. Anyone who watches football knows Tom Brady was NOT the most valuable player of that superbowl, Ty Law was. Without him the Carolina receivers would have ran all over them and they would have scored 50 points. The NFL never gives the MVP to a defensive player, so that eliminates half the guys and always tries to give it to someone who sells, such a QB like Brady. Stick him on a team that's not complete and he's nothing. Anyone remember the AFC Championship game when the Steelers pounded his ass until he got hurt and then Drew Bledsoe came in and led then to a comeback. Brady doesn't even win that first SB MVP if he stays in that game; which reminds me of how Pittsburgh is going to ruin New England's run this week. GO BLACK AND GOLD!
Yes Superbowl MVPs mean nothing, but Mannings 2 league MVPs mean so much more...hows it feel to root for a perennial playoff failure?

Wake up...Brady threw for 354 yds and 3 TDs against Carolina, he desrved the MVP, Ty Law as Speedracer mentioned, played poorly as did a lot of the Pats' secondary. The first SB victory over the Rams, there you could argue Ty Law as an MVP candidate since he returned a Kurt Warner pick for a TD and Brady's numbers were less impressive due to the Pats' game plan, but last year the MVP was well earned and deserved.

And Bledsoe came in and led them to a comeback?? Bledsoe came in and threw a TD pass yes, but the Pats were leading when he entered.

Please check facts.
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hows it feel to root for a perennial playoff failure?
this coming from a Red Sox fan!
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IMO, Peyton Manning is a better QB than Tom Brady is.
Maybe. But Brady is smarter.
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this coming from a Red Sox fan!
You know Dave, that laughter would have actually meant something say 4 months ago, but seeing as the Red Sox are the current World Series Champion...it really doesn't have much effect any longer...go back and think up something thats actually current and relevant and try again.
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Yes, you're so right. How could I possibly call a team that took 86 years to win a World Series, losing constantly year after year in the playoffs to stupid blunders a perennial playoff failure?

oh, silly ol' me.

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Gee if the glorious Peyton Manning had managed to win Sunday, then went on to beat the Steelers and Falcons, I guess he'd still be a perennial playoff failure too by your standards.
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86 years is a bit different than 5 or 6, or however long exactly he's been in the league.

But we digress.

What makes you so sure the Falcons are in?
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