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Old 02-27-2005, 08:42 PM   #271
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did governor schwarzeneggar mandate that the theme from terminator get played over the closing credits?
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its the official state song of California
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What does Scorsese have to do to get an Oscar?
Come up with a movie about a handicap person. Or a sad story about some sort of martyr.
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only chris rock could get away with a shout out to their home town at the end of the oscars... billy crystal could never get away with it... then again "LOOONG BEACH, LOOONG ISLAAANNNND!!" just doesn't have the same ring as brooklyn.
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What does Scorsese have to do to get an Oscar? Poor guy. I guess Clint is getting old... they felt sorry for him? heee
He needs to stop making meandering 3 hour movies in desperate need of editing.

Clint gets it.
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Old 02-27-2005, 08:51 PM   #277
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He needs to stop making meandering 3 hour movies in desperate need of editing.

Clint gets it.
yea... taxi driver, new york new york, raging bull, color of money, the last temptation of christ, goodfellas, cape fear, casino, gangs of new york, aviator... meandering pieces of shit... all of 'em.

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yea... taxi driver, new york new york, raging bull, color of money, the last temptation of christ, goodfellas, cape fear, gangs of new york, aviator... meandering pieces of shit... all of 'em.

I don't think that's what they were getting at. Although it isn't unpopular or rare opinion to say that Gangs of New York and The Aviator did need some editing and did feel overly long, etc.
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Oh, please, no need for histrionics.

I think he was ripped off and should have won for Raging Bull. Goodfellas is a toss up - I say, yes, but I understand why people preferred Costner's film.

The Age of Innocence, Casino, Gangs of New York and Aviator are ALL too long, all in need of some serious editing wrt storytelling. They meander in the middle and just lose the momentum built up.

Scorsese's problem isn't that his movies are pieces of shit as you so eloquently put, it's that his RECENT films are all considerably worse than his older works, and in a terribly obvious way, and that they all generally share the same problems despite having a great cast.
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Great, Martin Scorsese gets screwed over by yet ANOTHER overrated actor-director. Ok, so people may not think his later films are as great, but I'm just annoyed that it lost to such an average film. If it lost to Schindler's List, you wouldn't see me complain, but M$B...

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Oh, please, no need for histrionics.

I think he was ripped off and should have won for Raging Bull. Goodfellas is a toss up - I say, yes, but I understand why people preferred Costner's film.

The Age of Innocence, Casino, Gangs of New York and Aviator are ALL too long, all in need of some serious editing wrt storytelling. They meander in the middle and just lose the momentum built up.

Scorsese's problem isn't that his movies are pieces of shit as you so eloquently put, it's that his RECENT films are all considerably worse than his older works, and in a terribly obvious way, and that they all generally share the same problems despite having a great cast.
thank you ebert. i guess we'll just have to disagree.

and my apologies for not being "eloquent" enough... just not my style.

how ironic that the aviator, in desperate need of editing as you eloquently put it, won the oscar for excellence in editing.
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Wow, what a boring Oscars. They're slumming.

No movie clips, but they ended early. Cut the "comedy" and restore the film worship!
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Oh, please, no need for histrionics.

I think he was ripped off and should have won for Raging Bull. Goodfellas is a toss up - I say, yes, but I understand why people preferred Costner's film.

The Age of Innocence, Casino, Gangs of New York and Aviator are ALL too long, all in need of some serious editing wrt storytelling. They meander in the middle and just lose the momentum built up.

Scorsese's problem isn't that his movies are pieces of shit as you so eloquently put, it's that his RECENT films are all considerably worse than his older works, and in a terribly obvious way, and that they all generally share the same problems despite having a great cast.
Of course, the Academy missed the boat by not awarding him a statue earlier. But all awards follow a tradition of handing out awards like best picture/actor/director as rewards for the person, regardless of whether they've passed their peak or not. Just think of Eric Clapton's sympathy Grammys in 1992 at U2's expense. Or John Wayne, Henry Fonda, Fred Astaire, even Paul Newman in Scorsese's Colour Of Money - they all won with films and performances that weren't a patch on earlier work, but were rewarded for sentimental reasons.

Unfortunately for Scorsese there's a deep-seated reservation about him in the Hollywood establishment because his films haven't made enough money - even the Aviator hasn't turned a US profit despite being (I believe) his highest grossing film. So these days he is still marked harshly even as guys like Eastwood are collecting Oscars with ease. The American film industry respects Scorsese, hence the nominatons, but he's still not quite loved. On the other hand Eastwood IS loved, and ironically with Baby hes won with a story that feeds on the sort of Catholicism Scorsese's early stuff was full of!
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i thought the commercials were better than the super bowl
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Yeah, that Spartacus commercial was great.
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