pr0digy
The Fly
I have put this post back up, but its toned down a bit from the original because I offended lots of people.
This was obvious when one chick said I "must have a mullet and wear neon pants."
This post by no means says "radiohead are crap" if thats what you think I am getting at.
I myself am a Radiohead fan, but unlike many other Radiohead fans I'm beginning to question why I should like the band so much, especially now with albums such as Amnesiac and Kid A.
If anyone wants to respond, please don't abuse "me" or throw personal insults at "me".
I just want some peoples opinion to whether they agree with me or whether I am truly fucking insane(but say it nicely though).
Anyway here we goes.
For all you Radiohead fans out there. Do any of you actually understand what Radiohead are on about half the time???
Do you care ????
I am an older Radiohead fan (Pablo Honey, The Bends and still undecided on Ok Computer), back when they used to actually be more of a rock band.
Can we be honest for a moment about Radiohead. I am so sick of fans and critics hailing them for their "brilliance" and "underlying genius".
Because I'm starting wonder whether this is true anymore or whether they act that way to get the attention.
Okay I admit Radiohead have always been a very eccentric group, but back with Pablo Honey and The Bends, they were a guitar band, and quite frankly, I think they did rock. Thoms voice has always been whinny and depressing, but the fact that they were still a rock group made them tolerable in my book.
Radioheads subject matter today is so fucked up and bizzare that I ask the question, is this really music ???
Do we really want to sit and think hardly about what Thom Yorke was thinking when he wrote such things as "Yesterday I wokeup sucking a lemon" or "Everyone...everyone around here, everyone is no...neaaar" or any other silly banter like that???
I am fucking sick of Radiohead fans acting like Radiohead are the greatest thing to come out of music. I'm willing to bet that half of you fans don't even know why you like the band. Can someone please explain to me what half the songs from Kid and Amnesiac are about and why I should care ??
And don't tell me that songs like Idioteque are meant to be a full of "raw energy". I'd say its more of a song from a man who is not far from becoming the next Norman Bates. You can produce raw energy on a stage with a guitarist like Edge and an awesome singer like Bono that doesn't involve throwing a tantrum and whinning about useless garbage. "ICE AGE COMING ICE AGE COMING !!!"
If anything I believe its the Radiohead fans that are the most annoying people too. You think you are somehow musically inclined above the rest of us because you like Radiohead and pretend to understand what Thom Yorke is singing about. Or you're pretending that he actually sounds good, or that when Jonny goes and plays with some fucking spanish radio on stage or abuses the hell out of his poor Fender Tele, that it is like "Oh my god they are so creative and talented!", and that somehow we are all going to stop what we're going and say "that truly is so creative, no one else does that, Radiohead must truly be an awesome band, I don't understand their songs, but he's playing with a spanish radio to make weird sounds, thats...amazing!!".
I don't hate Radiohead even if it seems that I do with much sarcasm, but I am sick of people pretending that they are brilliant and somewhat better than what I call normal "down-to-earth-music". They're very creative and artistic I'll give them that. And I commend them for staying as far away from a lot of the mainstream shit that exists in the music industry today.
Yet since the release of Kid A and Amnesiac, I'm beginning to wonder "why would anyone want to listen to this ????".
And don't tell me that I don't like some of their stuff because I don't "understand it", because neither do you!
People hailed Ok Computer for its brilliance of showing us how it "defines urban pre-millenium tension, globalisation, cloning and cultural shifts of a confusing and unstable world".
Who the fuck cares?
We're talking about music here.
I'll admit that is a very very deep and involved topic, but I propose that its to much of a headache to get a message like that from what is supposed to be "rock music".
I've heard of "issue songs", but c'mon people, this is music we're talking about, not prophecies or testements for a new developing world.
With that said, I'll mention that most of the songs on Ok Computer are so miserable and depressing that I cringe at the thought of a Radiohead fan sitting at home actually listening to this "suicidal inducing banter"(which is what I think of it), and actually enjoying it.
I can't stand "No Surprises" and "Fitter Happier" (sounds like steven hawkins) and I'll admit that "Exit Music" would make a good song for a film, but I don't see how you could listen to it each day and remain happy and optimistic about life.
Thankgod for songs such as "I Might Be Wrong" and "Optimistic" which seem to be Radiohead when they are happy, or happier.
But it just gets weirder with Radioheads live performances. "Idioteque" and "National Anthem", what the fuck? I've been at friends houses and one of them likes really likes Radiohead (we still dont know why) and he'll stick on the "I Might Be Wrong Live" cd and Idioteque will come on. This is when I observe multiple uneasy expressions from the rest of my friends, who proceed to look at each other in complete utter confusion.
I like to believe that Radiohead fans go to the concerts just to see whether Thom Yorke really is as weird as he is depicted in magazines and as seen on television or the internet etc.
I wish Radiohead would revisit albums like The Bends, which is their greatest album by the way in my opinion.
I wish Radiohead would write more nice songs like "High and Dry" and "Fake Plastic Trees". I believe Moby agrees with me here too. These songs are purely brilliant, and still pleasant to listen too unlike most of Ok Computer.
I think in a way unlike the mainstream music that is overated by MTV and radiostations, that Radiohead is overated by its critics and fans.
I remember when U2 bit the bullet and remerged into the 90's with Achtung Baby and completely changed style. Then they furthered their experimentation with Zooropa, had a bit of a glitch with POP. Yet it was still all brilliant.
And don't any of you Radiohead fans even compare Kid A to Zooropa, because unlike U2, who did go electronic and a little eccentric, Radiohead have gone electronic and even more eccentric than they originally were and I find it almost unbearable.
I just wanted to get off my chest what I have been thinking about Radiohead for the past few years. I've been asking myself "is there something wrong with me, why don't I like Radiohead as much as I used too?" "Am I just stupid and can't see the musical genius behind that whinny voice and crazy electronic backbeat?"
"Sometimes", "sometimes" I can, but I propose, why bother ?
I suppose music comes down to what makes you feel good, or what you like.
But seriously Radiohead fans, stop telling yourself that you love them so much and that their music is awesome to listen too if you are having doubts in your mind.
Because not all of their music is that great, a lot of it is just complete confusing shit.
If you want to, or enjoy studying their deep and meaningful underlying "genius" then fine, I can't stop you. But I know for a fact that I would rather listen to a band such as U2 who have creatively and artistically been through many different styles of music, yet still remain, oh I dunno, sane perhaps and down-to-earth, not off in the fucking ether somewhere with Thom Yorkes mind.
Why do you think Bono sung the line from Creep during the Elevation tour? Because he probably realises (but is also afraid to admit) that this "really" is Radioheads best song.
I can't imagine him quoting any of Radioheads other lyric except for maybe "Yesterday I Woke up sucking a lemon".
Maybe I have to have been a Radiohead fan from the very beginning to like Kid A and Amnesiac and god even Ok Computer.
Perhaps its the same as myself being a huge U2 fan, and really liking POP, despite all the crap that it has received.
So anyway I've pissed a lot of people off, yet hopefully I've gotten through to some of you too.
[This message has been edited by pr0digy (edited 03-24-2002).]
This was obvious when one chick said I "must have a mullet and wear neon pants."
This post by no means says "radiohead are crap" if thats what you think I am getting at.
I myself am a Radiohead fan, but unlike many other Radiohead fans I'm beginning to question why I should like the band so much, especially now with albums such as Amnesiac and Kid A.
If anyone wants to respond, please don't abuse "me" or throw personal insults at "me".
I just want some peoples opinion to whether they agree with me or whether I am truly fucking insane(but say it nicely though).
Anyway here we goes.
For all you Radiohead fans out there. Do any of you actually understand what Radiohead are on about half the time???
Do you care ????
I am an older Radiohead fan (Pablo Honey, The Bends and still undecided on Ok Computer), back when they used to actually be more of a rock band.
Can we be honest for a moment about Radiohead. I am so sick of fans and critics hailing them for their "brilliance" and "underlying genius".
Because I'm starting wonder whether this is true anymore or whether they act that way to get the attention.
Okay I admit Radiohead have always been a very eccentric group, but back with Pablo Honey and The Bends, they were a guitar band, and quite frankly, I think they did rock. Thoms voice has always been whinny and depressing, but the fact that they were still a rock group made them tolerable in my book.
Radioheads subject matter today is so fucked up and bizzare that I ask the question, is this really music ???
Do we really want to sit and think hardly about what Thom Yorke was thinking when he wrote such things as "Yesterday I wokeup sucking a lemon" or "Everyone...everyone around here, everyone is no...neaaar" or any other silly banter like that???
I am fucking sick of Radiohead fans acting like Radiohead are the greatest thing to come out of music. I'm willing to bet that half of you fans don't even know why you like the band. Can someone please explain to me what half the songs from Kid and Amnesiac are about and why I should care ??
And don't tell me that songs like Idioteque are meant to be a full of "raw energy". I'd say its more of a song from a man who is not far from becoming the next Norman Bates. You can produce raw energy on a stage with a guitarist like Edge and an awesome singer like Bono that doesn't involve throwing a tantrum and whinning about useless garbage. "ICE AGE COMING ICE AGE COMING !!!"
If anything I believe its the Radiohead fans that are the most annoying people too. You think you are somehow musically inclined above the rest of us because you like Radiohead and pretend to understand what Thom Yorke is singing about. Or you're pretending that he actually sounds good, or that when Jonny goes and plays with some fucking spanish radio on stage or abuses the hell out of his poor Fender Tele, that it is like "Oh my god they are so creative and talented!", and that somehow we are all going to stop what we're going and say "that truly is so creative, no one else does that, Radiohead must truly be an awesome band, I don't understand their songs, but he's playing with a spanish radio to make weird sounds, thats...amazing!!".
I don't hate Radiohead even if it seems that I do with much sarcasm, but I am sick of people pretending that they are brilliant and somewhat better than what I call normal "down-to-earth-music". They're very creative and artistic I'll give them that. And I commend them for staying as far away from a lot of the mainstream shit that exists in the music industry today.
Yet since the release of Kid A and Amnesiac, I'm beginning to wonder "why would anyone want to listen to this ????".
And don't tell me that I don't like some of their stuff because I don't "understand it", because neither do you!
People hailed Ok Computer for its brilliance of showing us how it "defines urban pre-millenium tension, globalisation, cloning and cultural shifts of a confusing and unstable world".
Who the fuck cares?
We're talking about music here.
I'll admit that is a very very deep and involved topic, but I propose that its to much of a headache to get a message like that from what is supposed to be "rock music".
I've heard of "issue songs", but c'mon people, this is music we're talking about, not prophecies or testements for a new developing world.
With that said, I'll mention that most of the songs on Ok Computer are so miserable and depressing that I cringe at the thought of a Radiohead fan sitting at home actually listening to this "suicidal inducing banter"(which is what I think of it), and actually enjoying it.
I can't stand "No Surprises" and "Fitter Happier" (sounds like steven hawkins) and I'll admit that "Exit Music" would make a good song for a film, but I don't see how you could listen to it each day and remain happy and optimistic about life.
Thankgod for songs such as "I Might Be Wrong" and "Optimistic" which seem to be Radiohead when they are happy, or happier.
But it just gets weirder with Radioheads live performances. "Idioteque" and "National Anthem", what the fuck? I've been at friends houses and one of them likes really likes Radiohead (we still dont know why) and he'll stick on the "I Might Be Wrong Live" cd and Idioteque will come on. This is when I observe multiple uneasy expressions from the rest of my friends, who proceed to look at each other in complete utter confusion.
I like to believe that Radiohead fans go to the concerts just to see whether Thom Yorke really is as weird as he is depicted in magazines and as seen on television or the internet etc.
I wish Radiohead would revisit albums like The Bends, which is their greatest album by the way in my opinion.
I wish Radiohead would write more nice songs like "High and Dry" and "Fake Plastic Trees". I believe Moby agrees with me here too. These songs are purely brilliant, and still pleasant to listen too unlike most of Ok Computer.
I think in a way unlike the mainstream music that is overated by MTV and radiostations, that Radiohead is overated by its critics and fans.
I remember when U2 bit the bullet and remerged into the 90's with Achtung Baby and completely changed style. Then they furthered their experimentation with Zooropa, had a bit of a glitch with POP. Yet it was still all brilliant.
And don't any of you Radiohead fans even compare Kid A to Zooropa, because unlike U2, who did go electronic and a little eccentric, Radiohead have gone electronic and even more eccentric than they originally were and I find it almost unbearable.
I just wanted to get off my chest what I have been thinking about Radiohead for the past few years. I've been asking myself "is there something wrong with me, why don't I like Radiohead as much as I used too?" "Am I just stupid and can't see the musical genius behind that whinny voice and crazy electronic backbeat?"
"Sometimes", "sometimes" I can, but I propose, why bother ?
I suppose music comes down to what makes you feel good, or what you like.
But seriously Radiohead fans, stop telling yourself that you love them so much and that their music is awesome to listen too if you are having doubts in your mind.
Because not all of their music is that great, a lot of it is just complete confusing shit.
If you want to, or enjoy studying their deep and meaningful underlying "genius" then fine, I can't stop you. But I know for a fact that I would rather listen to a band such as U2 who have creatively and artistically been through many different styles of music, yet still remain, oh I dunno, sane perhaps and down-to-earth, not off in the fucking ether somewhere with Thom Yorkes mind.
Why do you think Bono sung the line from Creep during the Elevation tour? Because he probably realises (but is also afraid to admit) that this "really" is Radioheads best song.
I can't imagine him quoting any of Radioheads other lyric except for maybe "Yesterday I Woke up sucking a lemon".
Maybe I have to have been a Radiohead fan from the very beginning to like Kid A and Amnesiac and god even Ok Computer.
Perhaps its the same as myself being a huge U2 fan, and really liking POP, despite all the crap that it has received.
So anyway I've pissed a lot of people off, yet hopefully I've gotten through to some of you too.
[This message has been edited by pr0digy (edited 03-24-2002).]
