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Old 12-02-2004, 01:13 PM   #61
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Actually, I reckon Ipswich and Wigan are going up from Div 1 this year... Crew 0 - 2 Ipswich...........
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I wouldn't count on it, to be honest. We're nearing the halfway point, yes, and I'm getting more and more excited, but as they say, no one wins Championships in December. Just ask Wolves.

I do think we deserve to be where we are though. Our new-found defensive solidarity has been a big surprise and I think in Kuqi, Benty and Bowditch we have a pretty good attack. Any bad injury still worries me though. Joe keeps talking about loan players, but the one he did manage to bring in was pretty awful (Tony Dinning, of Wigan). Hopefully with Wenger signing that new defender of his Justin Hoyte will make his way down to Portman Road for the season.

That said some of the performances have been awful. We weren't really in the game against Sunderland or Derby, and you don't throw away a two-goal lead at Watford. Unless you're Rotherham.
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Rumours are flying today about Ryan Giggs being sold to Newcastle for £4m in the new year.
I really hope this doesnt happen. Giggs is one of UTD's all-time greats, and it would be sad to see him go. He's won it all at Old Trafford, and now suddenly, he's not starting every game anymore, so you can understand his view if he does leave.
Even at 31, he'll be a huge asset at whatever club he's at. It'll be a great purchase by Souness if he does go to Tyneside.

As for UTD if he leaves...they can still produce the goods with Ronaldo on either wing, and Darren Fletcher is starting to look good at the moment too. But Fergie will still have to buy another winger if Giggs goes.
Thomas Gravesen of Everton looks good, as does Stuart Downing from 'Boro, but I dont think he'd leave just yet.


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Old 12-03-2004, 11:41 AM   #64
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anyone know anything about the situation at Wrexham? I hear they've had 10 points deducted for going into administration.

What a stupid rule. Surely deducting points only makes a bad situation worse. The FA should be looking to aid these teams in desperate need of financial help instead of giving them more troubles to think about. Is there any logic in this 10 points deduction rule at all is it there just for the fun of it?
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Old 12-03-2004, 11:54 AM   #65
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I think the points deduction is in place in an attempt to prevent teams from bad financial planning. Works wonders, don't you think?
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it's to prevent clubs from going the Leicester route

that lovely-jubbly team was relegated together with Ipswich several years ago, you may remember

Leicester went into admin straightaway, and kept Izzet, Scowcroft, Walker and other top players, and finished second

we didn't (not until Christmas or so anyway) and by season's end Holland, Hreidarsson, Ambrose and Stewart were all gone
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Personally, im happy about the Wrexham situation - my 2nd team is Torquay, and I didnt think they had much of a chance staying up in League 1 this season, but this has helped them out a bit! Still got a lot of work to do themselves tho, and Wrexham could easily still avoid the drop.
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The sad thing about the Wrexham situation is that the chairman bought the club with sole reason of running it into the ground and then selling the ground for property development. Big Shame. i remember seeing IReland play against Wales at Wrexham back in early '90's (orange ball, pitch full of snow and Ireland won 3-0 if I remember right!). Oh, and I got to drink lots and lots
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Ah...it may be time for the ol' orange ball to be bought out again soon!
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Chelsea 4-0 Newcastle.....
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...and 4 different scorers too. I have to admit now, they are a bloody good team...
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Money does buy success..........
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Not yet Party Boy.....not yet!
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NOW COME ON UTD - KEEP THE PRESSURE ON!!
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Ch€£$ki are on a roll. Hopefully Arsenal can put an end to that next Sunday. However, it's Birmingham today. Anything less than all three points is unacceptable.
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