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Old 09-17-2007, 08:02 PM   #31
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Simpson Getting No Celebrity Breaks
By RYAN NAKASHIMA, Associated Press Writer
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LAS VEGAS - News conferences, a slew of felony charges, a perp walk in handcuffs and detention in a holding cell without bail _ it's clear authorities aren't giving O.J. Simpson any celebrity breaks.

Police insist such treatment is prudent for a man whose name is synonmous with a slow-speed chase from officers in a white Ford Bronco. But legal experts are questioning whether Simpson is being singled out for extra-tough prosecution in his casino-hotel robbery case as payback for his murder acquittal more than a decade ago.

"It is regrettable that America has not gotten over the O.J. Simpson criminal case," said Carl Douglas, who was co-counsel with Johnnie L. Cochran in Simpson's 1995 criminal trial.

"The fact that he is being held without bail seems unfair and over the top," Douglas said. "O.J. has always been able to satisfy his obligations to the court. He cooperated with the authorities in this case. He is not a flight risk. And he certainly can't hide anywhere."

At least six plainclothes policemen, accompanied by a handful of hotel security guards, arrested Simpson on Sunday at The Palms hotel. He was accused of leading an armed heist of sports memorabilia. Simpson said he was only reclaiming possessions that had been stolen.

"By our standard, there was no major show of force," Sgt. John Loretto said.

Simpson was handcuffed and taken in a police vehicle to the Clark County Detention Center to be booked on six felonies, including two counts of robbery with use of a deadly weapon. If convicted of the charges, he could get up to 30 years in state prison on each robbery count alone.

Simpson became inmate number 2648927.

Justice of the Peace Douglas Smith, who made the decision to hold Simpson without bail, was "concerned about the flight factor" and because Simpson had no ties to the Las Vegas area, said Judge Nancy Oesterle, who addressed reporters on Monday.

Arraignment was set for Wednesday.

Police said they were giving Simpson no special treatment _ other than keeping him separated from the rest of the general prison population for his own protection.

In June 1994, Los Angeles police gave Simpson a day and a time to turn himself in to face allegations he had killed ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman. It was a courtesy, said then-prosecutor Marcia Clark, often extended to celebrities or those with no criminal record.

Instead, Simpson jumped in an SUV, apparently with a loaded gun and ready to commit suicide, and led police and media helicopters on a dramatic, televised chase before surrendering.

"The Bronco chase was a nightmare," said Clark, now a special correspondent for "Entertainment Tonight." "Certainly he has abused that courtesy, so I would not expect anyone to extend it to him again."

In a clear misstatement, Lt. James Dillon said Friday at a news conference that, because Simpson was involved, police were being extra careful to conduct "a thorough, biased and competent investigation."

But some think it might have been more than a slip of the tongue

Jerry Reisman, a New York lawyer who represented O.J. Simpson in the early 1990s in business and real estate matters, said the public and law enforcement "are looking for some sort of conviction for those who want justice for Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. Everyone wants to be the one that gets him."

Experts also raised questions about the decision to release a man who police said carried a gun in the alleged holdup of two collectors at a Palace Station casino hotel room.

Walter Alexander, 46, of Mesa, Ariz., was released without bail, despite facing charges almost identical to Simpson's. Legal experts said that may indicate his testimony could be key to convicting Simpson.

An apparent audiotape of O.J. Simpson's standoff with men he accused of stealing his memorabilia begins with the former NFL star demanding, "Don't let nobody out of here."

"Think you can steal my s--- and sell it?" the voice identified as Simpson's said, in a recording released by celebrity news Web site TMZ.com.

A big hurdle for prosecutors will also be determining who owned the memorabilia _ everything from cleats worn by former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Joe Montana, to autographed baseballs, and Simpson's Hall of Fame certificate.

Bruce Fromong, one of the sports memorabilia dealers who said he was robbed, told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Monday that the items did not belong to Simpson.

"If you're asking did they once belong to him, yes, they did," Fromong said. "But these were things that belonged to him a long time ago."

In 1997, a civil jury in Santa Monica returned $33.5 million in judgments against Simpson in a wrongful-death lawsuit by the families of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman.

David Cook, an attorney for Goldman's father, Fred Goldman, said he intended to file requests in Los Angeles Superior Court on Tuesday to obtain ownership of the seized sports memorabilia for sale to satisfy the judgment.

"We're going to presume that the bulk of the stuff is probably in police custody," Cook said Monday by telephone from San Francisco. He said other key items were a gold Rolex watch and the suit that he Simpson wore on the day he was acquitted.

"Assuming that this case is resolved one way or another, at the end of the case, the stuff will never go back to Mr. Simpson," Cook vowed. "He's going to walk out of Clark County empty-handed."

Thomas Mesereau Jr., the defense attorney who represented Michael Jackson in a high-profile trial two years ago, said of the Simpson arrest: "This is the kind of case that will test how fair and professional our legal system is. When you have such a groundswell of dislike for someone, you have to make sure they are treated like anyone else."
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But legal experts are questioning whether Simpson is being singled out for extra-tough prosecution in his casino-hotel robbery case as payback for his murder acquittal more than a decade ago.
you know, i was thinking this too. him and some buddies went in with some guns to get back what was supposedly his and he's facing decades in prison? of course, the maximum charge doesn't mean that's what he'll get, but still.

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lol, i love lawyers. i don't know if i'd say that. we all know about the infamous car chase with him, so who knows. then again, that was years ago.

this whole thing is just so odd. i can't believe that there was no one with him that told him maybe what he was doing wasn't such a wise thing, and just a tad excessive.
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you know, i was thinking this too. him and some buddies went in with some guns to get back what was supposedly his and he's facing decades in prison? of course, the maximum charge doesn't mean that's what he'll get, but still.
I know what you mean. It seems that he is being treated like he's guilty before he's actually proven as convicted for this robbery.
Although, most probably don't feel it's necessary to 'predict' what they think ... as alot of people still CAN'T and WON'T forget about those murders. The fact that he was acquitted for those murders, still apalls alot of people ... most thought he was guilty and the court still didn't see things that way.

So, are they now making up for a past mistake ??
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This is just too much. What a complete idiot OJ is.
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OJ's guilt in the murders was never EVER proven. I think it WAS proven that the glove was planted where it was found, hence it being the wrong size(the cops were stupid). There was a lot of circumstantial evidence and there was OJ's own behavior(insensitive and apparently unphased at the fact that the mother of his children had been murdered). This certainly proves that OJ is probably an asshole, but I still don't view it as definitive proof that he did it.
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OJ's guilt in the murders was never EVER proven. I think it WAS proven that the glove was planted where it was found, hence it being the wrong size(the cops were stupid). There was a lot of circumstantial evidence and there was OJ's own behavior(insensitive and apparently unphased at the fact that the mother of his children had been murdered). This certainly proves that OJ is probably an asshole, but I still don't view it as definitive proof that he did it.
Did you watch how he was "trying" to put that glove on? That is certainly not the way you do it if you want to make sure a glove goes on -- it's the way you do it if you want to make sure it doesn't go on. Anyone who has worn leather gloves for any length of time should know he certainly could have put that glove on if he wanted to.
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What about the Bruno Magli shoes? The DNA? That was all just circumstantial? Or just planted by racist cops and/or mishandled/contaminated? Oh yeah, OJ wouldn't wear those ugly ass shoes-case closed.
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OJ's guilt in the murders was never EVER proven. I think it WAS proven that the glove was planted where it was found, hence it being the wrong size(the cops were stupid). There was a lot of circumstantial evidence and there was OJ's own behavior(insensitive and apparently unphased at the fact that the mother of his children had been murdered). This certainly proves that OJ is probably an asshole, but I still don't view it as definitive proof that he did it.
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Did you watch how he was "trying" to put that glove on? That is certainly not the way you do it if you want to make sure a glove goes on -- it's the way you do it if you want to make sure it doesn't go on. Anyone who has worn leather gloves for any length of time should know he certainly could have put that glove on if he wanted to.
Plus it was a bloody, wet leather glove left in storage for months and months. Of course it wouldn't fit like it did before.

That was the dumbest move the prosecutors made in that case, having O.J. try the glove on in court. Of course he's going to act like he's struggling to put it on.

And I've never read where it was proven the glove was planted.
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OJ's guilt in the murders was never EVER proven. I think it WAS proven that the glove was planted where it was found, hence it being the wrong size(the cops were stupid). There was a lot of circumstantial evidence and there was OJ's own behavior(insensitive and apparently unphased at the fact that the mother of his children had been murdered). This certainly proves that OJ is probably an asshole, but I still don't view it as definitive proof that he did it.
You've got to be kidding. Besides all of the DNA, and the Bruno Magli shoes that were proven belonged to him. The gloves that were found (planted or not) were proven to be a gift that Nicole had given to O.J. He wore the same fucking gloves that she gave him to butcher her! How do you explain that? And the noises outside Kato's room right after the murder? The cops hadn't even discovered the crime scene yet. Why would O.J. park his Bronco on the side of his house, when he had that huge driveway with several garages? And the fact that the limo driver waited and waited for somebody to answer at O.J.'s house. What about the cut on his hand? Must have just been a coincidence, eh? There is so much evidence that he did it. That's why to this day people still feel so strongly about this case. Now if you wanna talk about a case where there was no evidence... How about Scott Peterson. The only thing he really did was act weird and unaffected by all of it, and now he's on death row. I definitely think he did it, but it's pretty crazy that he can be convicted with ZERO physical evidence and O.J. can't with loads and loads of physical evidence! And why? Because O.J. is a celebrity. It's plain and simple. That jury was starstruck by him. He was guilty as sin!

As for this new case, I don't care if he's guilty or not. I will get great satisfaction out of knowing he is rotting in jail somewhere. It's exactly what his murdering ass deserves!
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OJ's guilt in the murders was never EVER proven. I think it WAS proven that the glove was planted where it was found, hence it being the wrong size(the cops were stupid). There was a lot of circumstantial evidence and there was OJ's own behavior(insensitive and apparently unphased at the fact that the mother of his children had been murdered). This certainly proves that OJ is probably an asshole, but I still don't view it as definitive proof that he did it.
You were like 10 when this happened, so I'll give some leeway, but come on circumstantial evidence? The glove was proven it was planted?! I think maybe an OJ fan was retelling you their version of how this went down.
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you know, i was thinking this too. him and some buddies went in with some guns to get back what was supposedly his and he's facing decades in prison? of course, the maximum charge doesn't mean that's what he'll get, but still.
But it wasn't his. It can't be his. Even if it was one time his, it belongs to the Goldman's and Brown's now.
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But it wasn't his. It can't be his. Even if it was one time his, it belongs to the Goldman's and Brown's now.
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