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Old 07-19-2007, 02:42 PM   #166
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Doubtful the trial will even take place this season. The wheels of justice grind very slowly.

That being said, the NFL isn't likely to suspend Vick for an indictment. His previous antics were more embarrassing to the Falcons' organization than the NFL as a league.

Arthur Blank will have to do it.
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I don't think it's any less embarassing for the NFL.

And phanan, my bad on Carr, I could've sworn he was still available.
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Doubtful the trial will even take place this season. The wheels of justice grind very slowly.

That being said, the NFL isn't likely to suspend Vick for an indictment. His previous antics were more embarrassing to the Falcons' organization than the NFL as a league.

Arthur Blank will have to do it.
If Vick gets convicted, though, it's a sure bet the NFL will handle it, not the Falcons.
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If Vick gets convicted, though, it's a sure bet the NFL will handle it, not the Falcons.
I hope some action is taken before then, by someone. Electrocuting, hanging, and drowning dogs is beyond words.
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Doubtful the trial will even take place this season. The wheels of justice grind very slowly.

That being said, the NFL isn't likely to suspend Vick for an indictment. His previous antics were more embarrassing to the Falcons' organization than the NFL as a league.

Arthur Blank will have to do it.
Vick is Blank's meal ticket. He won't do anything unless/until Vick is convicted, and at that point as phanan said, the league will bounce him.

The Falcons will be very screwed unless by some miracle Vick is exonerated.
He may not be the guy I'd want as my QB, doubt he'd ever win a title playing his style, but without him that team becomes a boring 4-12 team that draws 23,000 to a game and gets screwed by his bonus salary cap wise when they need to replace him.
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The Falcons are a very ordinary team even with Vick, so that tells you something about how they'd do with him gone.

He'll still play this year, though.
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If Vick gets convicted, though, it's a sure bet the NFL will handle it, not the Falcons.
Micheal Vick won't be convicted until after he is tried (except in the court of public opinion).

The earliest this thing goes to trial is Spring '08; which is long after the Falcons' season is over.

Have we already forgotten what happened with Kobe?

If Vick is benched in '07, Arthur Blank has to do it.
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That's what I'm saying. Nothing will happen until there is a conviction, not by the NFL or Blank.
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Or he could take the "Leave of Absence" that's being talked about.

It seems he has a way to make the NFL happy & still get paid this season. It seems the smart thing to do.

But a smart person wouldn't be in mess like this in the first place.
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That's what I'm saying. Nothing will happen until there is a conviction, not by the NFL or Blank.
Well, it seems something has happened, as small as it might be.

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NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has ordered Michael Vick not to attend when the Falcons convene training camp.

"While it is for the criminal justice system to determine your guilt or innocence, it is my responsibility as commissioner of the National Football League to determine whether your conduct, even if not criminal, nonetheless violated league policies, including the Personal Conduct Policy," Goodell said in a letter to the QB. It's the best move for Atlanta, the NFL, and ultimately Vick. This time will allow for a "cooling off period" for all sides and less of a P.R. hit. Vick, who will be paid during the leave, is scheduled to be arraigned July 26.

Source: FOXSports.com
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Yeah, they need to appease the public of Vick's actions.

And I could now see the Falcons suspending him for four games, for conduct that is detrimental to the team. Or they could force him to take a leave of absence while the case is ironed out.

Regardless, if it's true what he did, he should suspended for all of 2008.
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Regardless, if it's true what he did, he should suspended for all of 2008.
Suspending someone from work when they're likely to be in jail doesn't seem to have much point...?
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He'll get his Pre-Season salary of $1,100/wk while the NFL does it's investigation.

Looks like he should have taken the deal that was discussed over the weekend.
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Suspending someone from work when they're likely to be in jail doesn't seem to have much point...?
Depends on how long the jail sentence would be, I guess.
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I feel almost a grim sense of having "called it" with this whole Vick business. He went from Ron Mexico, then to the whole ugly scene with the water bottle/weed holster at the airport...seems like it was only a matter of time before he got entangled in some Serious Shit. And I knew it would happen eventually, so I wasn't all that surprised at the news that he's now at terrible odds with the Law.

All the same, this is a situation more extreme and foul and heinous than my wildest imaginations. If all the allegations are true (and if there's an indictment, there's at least a considerable Body of Evidence pointing towards that awful fact), then he's become a real monster - there's not a possibility that someone can be that seriously involved in this kind of mess and still be seriously considered "human". If true, he ought never to take another snap in the NFL again.

And if it's not true, then I wouldn't wish this kind of thing on my worst enemy. Allegations like this are the kind your reputation never recovers from.

But I can't shake this awful grim (and, admittedly smug) voice in my head whenever I hear about Vick on the news saying quietly, "I called it". . . nor the feeling that the charges are probably true.
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