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Old 01-21-2008, 09:45 PM   #646
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Kordell Stewart is a good one for LM to use...the Steelers went to the playoffs a few times with him under center....and, in fact, he had some good regular seasons, no joke...but he was a disaster in the playoffs, especially the AFC Championship game. When he was "Slash", he was fucking excellent, a great target for O'Donnell.
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:55 PM   #647
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I wonder if in todays NFL, coaches would have tried to make him into a reciever right away...

I do remember him being pretty good for a few years. I'm just looking at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kordell_Stewart
Fun to look back a little bit.
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:00 PM   #648
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He also was not exactly the best "leader" in the world. But, he was not better or worse than Tommy Maddox, who replaced him. Steelers went from about 1983-2004 without a truly good QB. O'Donnell was probably the best of the bunch, and he did get the Steelers to the SB, but, oh, Larry Brown....
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What do you think of Bettis when he says...".

"For some reason, Coach would never really commit fully to Kordell ... and because of that, we had no consistent leadership from the quarterback position,"
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"I think they pulled Kordell partly because they didn't want to pay him a big salary and signing bonus. It was cheaper for them if he didn't have success. If he recovered and had a huge year, then the public sentiment would be, 'Hey, you've got to re-sign him for whatever it costs.' I'm telling you, it was a monetary decision. The Steelers had no interest in paying Kordell his market value."
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I am not sure what to make of that, to be honest.

It is true that Kordell played for 2 seasons, then hit the bench and Tomczak took over, then was the starter again....

As for that 2nd quote, well, maybe it's true, but it sure was smart, no, cos look at what happened to him.
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Has anyone posted about Brady walking around NY today in a cast?
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I just saw it. Meh, I wouldn't obsess over it too much. It looks more like a boot from some of the pictures.

My wife has to wear one of those every so often simply for an arthritic toe.

Tony Dungy is coming back!
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Obviously this is a ploy by Bill Belichick to force the Giants to game-plan for the quarterback duo of Matt Cassel and Troy Brown. After about two plays, Tom Brady will enter the game wearing a bloody sock.

After the Patriots win, Brady will credit the Patriots team doctors for inventing a new surgical procedure involving tendons from a cadaver and getting him back on the field.
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so, yea... you can have your stats and qb ratings and all that other stuff... and that's fine. but anyone who knows anything about sports knows that when it's all said and done the only stat that means anything is the almighty W.
But, again, why is Eli treated as if he's the sole reason for that W? Perhaps there's more to it than that.

Perhaps Palmer isn't getting W's himself because the team around him sucks ass (which it does)? Once Eli puts up the numbers (which he is beginning to do) on a consistent basis, he will get all the credit you believe he deserves. But no QB deserves to be treated as if they're the class of their position by playing mediocre ball, even if their TEAM is winning. And let's face it, that's what Manning has been doing since he got into the league.

Hiding behind W's is a poor way of gauging QB talent, since there are many other positions involved in a team's success beyond QB.
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^In regards to Headache...Rex Grossman lead the Bears to the Super Bowl. He got lots of W's despite games with 5-6 int's.

^But LM, most people haven't been giving Eli credit up until more recently because of his mediocre play. It is only because of how he has played lately, which has been not just good enough to win, but very good. No interceptions through 3 playoff games should be something notable.
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Has anyone posted about Brady walking around NY today in a cast?
I guess having two weeks between games won't be that bad this year.
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Super Bowl XLII MVP: Matt Cassel?

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But, again, why is Eli treated as if he's the sole reason for that W? Perhaps there's more to it than that.

Perhaps Palmer isn't getting W's himself because the team around him sucks ass (which it does)? Once Eli puts up the numbers (which he is beginning to do) on a consistent basis, he will get all the credit you believe he deserves. But no QB deserves to be treated as if they're the class of their position by playing mediocre ball, even if their TEAM is winning. And let's face it, that's what Manning has been doing since he got into the league.

Hiding behind W's is a poor way of gauging QB talent, since there are many other positions involved in a team's success beyond QB.
no one ever said the QB is the only reason the giants are winning. and tom brady isn't the sole reason the pats are winning. but when the guy at the helm is winning, shit, he's gotta get a little credit. all i'm doing is trying to defend a guy who's played extremely well over te past month now.

and you can have your stats... i'll "hide behind the W's." why is joe montana considered a better QB than dan marino? thank you.

you can have the guys who put up gaudy stats. i'll take the guys who win games.
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