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Old 11-20-2007, 01:49 PM   #976
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some sites have it as only 22... so, yea. either way, it's still obscene.
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The spreads against the Jets and Dolphins will be all-time records if it's this high for the Eagles.
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If the season ended today, the Patriots would have the second pick in the draft next year.

That's not necessarily a good thing.
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The Patriots will likely be able to trade down in the draft if they choose.
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That's a lot to assume, though. I don't know how succesful they will be in trading down.

The salaries at the top of the draft are out of control. Unless there is a can't miss player there that a team needs, why would others bother?

Also, you probably get the feeling that teams are getting tired of dealing with the Patriots and watching how well it works out for them and makes them that much better. Why keep helping them?
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If trading for the no. 2 makes their team better or at least they think that way, then I think any team would be willing to deal with the Pats. Plus, they don't have a history of demanding a king's ransom for picks.

I hadn't even thought about it as a negative until now, but drafting a player that high could sure throw a monkey wrench into the works though. Then again, trading for Randy Moss was a move that was somewhat uncharacteristic so who knows how they'll figure it all out - but they will figure it out and make it work in a way that best suits them.

Darren McFadden wouldn't look to bad in a Pats uniform though.
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Also, you probably get the feeling that teams are getting tired of dealing with the Patriots and watching how well it works out for them and makes them that much better. Why keep helping them?
Yeah Belichick and Pioli seem to be chanelling Red Auerbach of late with their trades, eventually the rest of the NBA weren't so eager to deal with the Celts...same could happen to the PAts.
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Darren McFadden wouldn't look to bad in a Pats uniform though.
And trade Maroney for Miami's 2009 #1.
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That's a lot to assume, though. I don't know how succesful they will be in trading down.

The salaries at the top of the draft are out of control. Unless there is a can't miss player there that a team needs, why would others bother?

Also, you probably get the feeling that teams are getting tired of dealing with the Patriots and watching how well it works out for them and makes them that much better. Why keep helping them?
I'm pretty sure at least one team would be happy to swap first-round picks with the Patriots straight-up and take, say, Glenn Dorsey.
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He would break her in two.
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and probably fertilize some of her eggs with his track record
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it looked like she was trying to get a good feel of Moss's butt while talking to Brady...menage a trois perhaps?
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If Giselle sees the way Tommy boy was checking her out, no Victoria's Secret catalogue for Christmas this year.

Boy does she look tiny between them.
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I'm pretty sure at least one team would be happy to swap first-round picks with the Patriots straight-up and take, say, Glenn Dorsey.
It's possible, but teams will know how badly the Patriots will want to move down and not offer as much as the value of that pick. Then again, the Patriots might be inclined to take less just to get out of paying someone more guaranteed money than they just shelled out for Adalius Thomas. Either way, I see it as more of a negative for them.

Think about it - when was the last time a team further down in the first round traded up to a team in the top five? The only trades that have happened recently have been between teams already in the top five. And that's because it's just too much for a team to give up to even trade up to begin with, let alone turning around and paying someone an astronomical amount of money.

The Patriots might very well be stuck with the pick. Now, perhaps they'll luck out and get a superstar, but more often than not, you get a bust instead. Combine that with the possibility of getting their salary cap just a bit out of whack, and other teams might see it as an advantage NOT to make any deals with them.
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