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Old 03-28-2007, 07:26 PM   #91
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lol, no...just...I don't know...can't get into it
If you couldn't tell from my comment, I wasn't all that keen on it either. It sounds like a Dixie Chicks song gone terribly awry.

But hey, 23 songs. There's gotta be something for everyone, right?
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Old 03-28-2007, 07:35 PM   #92
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I don't understand it. Is it not experimental enough for you ladies? Maybe that cover really built up your expectations too much!
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I don't understand it. Is it not experimental enough for you ladies? Maybe that cover really built up your expectations too much!
It's not even remotely experimental but that's not the issue. It's just...corny or something. I don't like the guitar or the countdown or, yes, the MILF part, which just sounds like a desperate attempt to stay relevant even though the term is fairly dated at this point.

I guess that sounds harsh but my disappointment at hearing this first song is almost as great as when I heard the first song from The Beekeeper, which was the horribly adult contemporary "Sleeps With Butterflies," although I've softened my opinion on that after hearing the reason why she made a lite record (her daughter).

But HG is right. 23 songs! There must be some instant classic Tori gems on there.

But I'm glad you like Big Wheel, Zootles.
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I liked the Beekeeper too so maybe I'm easy to please or something.
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But hey, 23 songs. There's gotta be something for everyone, right?
... or once again in dire need of some editing.
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What's up with the negativity? We're not talking about U2 here, people!
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She's let me down too much with her last two efforts*. She's gonna have to do something pretty darned good with this one to win me back over into Toridom.


*I don't dislike Scarlet's Walk per se, I just didn't get into it. But The Beekeeper bored me to damn tears.
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Hmm...this is probably another case of Group A (fans from early on) vs. Group B (fans of the newer stuff). Different sounds appeal to the different groups. Something about "Bouncing Off Clouds"...yes, I dig it. "Big Wheel"...?

Gah. This record just needs to hurry up and come out already so we can hear the whole thing and see what it's all about.
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I still can't wait for the record and the tour. Ain't no Big Wheel keeping me down.
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Hmm...this is probably another case of Group A (fans from early on) vs. Group B (fans of the newer stuff). Different sounds appeal to the different groups. Something about "Bouncing Off Clouds"...yes, I dig it. "Big Wheel"...?

Gah. This record just needs to hurry up and come out already so we can hear the whole thing and see what it's all about.


Tori, Bjork and Wilco all come out at about the same time.
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She's let me down too much with her last two efforts*. She's gonna have to do something pretty darned good with this one to win me back over into Toridom.

*I don't dislike Scarlet's Walk per se, I just didn't get into it. But The Beekeeper bored me to damn tears.




Got a couple of questions for ya corianderstem... and really, it's open to HG and Joyful or whoever wants to answer it!

a. How would you compare Scarlet's Walk to ATYCLB?

b. How would you compare The Beekeeper to HTDAAB?

I don't mean to unnecessarily start comparing 2 different albums or artists but if you think about it, both artists abandoned the experimentation and came back to straight forward music early this decade.

To me, those Tori albums are more appealing than the U2 counterparts. But I'm wondering if it's because I got familiar with most of Tori's material much later compared to U2's. That said, with both artists I think I prefer the album that came before.
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I don't know that I'd even want to compare Tori's albums to U2's, but let me just say this:

I like U2's songs on both albums much more than I like Tori's songs on both albums.

But you know what, I'm a bigger fan of U2 than I am of Tori overall, so the comparison wouldn't work with me.

I WANT to like Tori again, and will always continue to buy her albums.
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I get what you're saying. But I consider SW to be one of Tori's masterpieces though I understand why it didn't appeal to everyone. SW brought Tori a whole new fanbase and most hardcore fans ended up loving it after giving it some time. Beekeeper, on the other hand, is nearly universally hated by the fans over on the Tori forum. So I wouldn't compare Beekeeper to HTDAAB in that sense. But I do think there is a similar division among fans with regard to Tori's early work vs. latter, (just like with Radiohead, U2 and Wilco), as HG was saying.

And though Beekeeper was disappointing to me, I really respect that she wanted to make records that her daughter could appreciate, much like Johnny Depp only wanted to make movies his kids could watch until they got older. So we got songs like Ribbons & Curls and Sleeps with Butterflies. I can't help but hope there will be something as exciting and out there as Blood Roses or iieee but I'd settle for some good solid pop songs like Tear in Your Hand or the lushness of something like I Can't See New York.

But Tori's still an exciting performer and though some tours are better than others, I still love watching and hearing her play live regardless of the songs. I just don't get too attached anymore to hearing certain songs and I'm happy to hear her voice and watch her play.
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Oh, and I will also say that I love Scarlet's Walk a LOT more than either ATYCLB or HTDAAB. I still listen to it all the time and pretty much never listen to either of those U2 records. SW is just so nice to have on in the background.
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I didn't care for Strange Little Girls all that much at first, but over time it really grew on me. Now I really like it for the most part, save for a few songs I still can't stand.

Scarlet's Walk, while it definitely has some very high points, never quite grew on me. It still might.
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