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Old 04-24-2006, 11:41 AM   #16
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Old 04-24-2006, 12:15 PM   #17
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Interesting how everyone immediatly believes Richards and just assumes Sheen is bullshitting with his denials.
Yeah... sad part is, they're probably the only two who REALLY know the truth. But what everyone will get is the best version of the truth the lawyers spin out.

It would seem from Sheen's prior problems with questionable characters (ahem, Heidi Fleiss) that there may be some truth in what Richards is claiming. But therein lies the problem - is she telling the truth about a total slimeball or is she using past indiscretions to cast a shadow over his current actions?

Regardless, it's a shame for the children.
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Old 04-24-2006, 01:11 PM   #18
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hmm, if this is true that's interesting. I thought Heather and Denise were friends.

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Denise Richards and Richie Sambora have been getting cozy: The pair were spotted kissing in Southern California this weekend, PEOPLE reports.

On Saturday, Richards, 35, and Sambora, 46, the soon-to-be ex-husband of Heather Locklear, arrived at Le Café in the Westlake Village neighborhood outside Los Angeles at about 5 p.m. in separate cars. In the parking lot, the two kissed then walked hand-in-hand, smiling and chatting the entire way as they headed for the restaurant.

Inside, they shared a table in the covered patio where they gazed into each other's eyes and held hands across the table. Eventually, Richards planted a kiss on Sambora's hand – and he returned the gesture, kissing hers. They then kissed again on the lips.

They left the restaurant at 5:45 p.m. in the same car together. Sambora has a home in Westlake Village.
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U mean Richie Sambora , the guitarrist of Bon Jovi ?
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Interesting how everyone immediatly believes Richards and just assumes Sheen is bullshitting with his denials.
I agree with you here. I don't think he's an angel by far but what she's put in her order for protection doesn't necessarily mean he's this crazy freak that likes looking at dead women's bodies.

When you fill out an order for protection you put in as much detail as possible to make sure the judge grants it. I'm not saying she doesn't deserve or need protection, I have no idea. The things in it though can be largely taken out of context here and misconstrued.

For all we know she is thinking back to seeing him look at photos of Nicole Brown and is just now freaked out by it. I'm guessing it didn't bother her at the time. And I'm sure he's not the only one that got caught up in that case. He could be a total freak but who are we to know.

She's protecting herself and going through an ugly divorce. Likely with a cut throat lawyer advising her.
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Most likely it's somewhere in between him being a total freak and Denise making her case, it wouldn't be ethical for her to lie in any of that court document but of course it is a possibility, or maybe more likely exaggeration. His previous reputation would make me more likely to believe negative things about him, not fair but he just doesn't seem to have changed his spots all that much. Maybe he should get help for his issues before getting into marriage.
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I'm not saying she's lying at all.

but look at the wording...

he was fascinated by the pics of nicole brown simpson could mean he glanced at them twice which only in retrospect creeps her out.

I also highly doubt girls in pigtails aren't common on porn sites. I've seen her in pigtails.

The way these things are strung together makes him look like a real freak. Which he might well be and his reputation backs it up so really the onus is on him isn't it.

If he treated her that way on Dec 30th that is reason enough for the restraining order. I agree with that. I'm just saying I take the rest with a grain of salt. I don't think we should be so ready to create a profile of this guy based on what is being said amidst an ugly court case
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i just hope the little girls aren't affected badly by all this
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On Saturday, Richards, 35, and Sambora, 46, the soon-to-be ex-husband of Heather Locklear, arrived at Le Café in the Westlake Village neighborhood outside Los Angeles at about 5 p.m. in separate cars. In the parking lot, the two kissed then walked hand-in-hand, smiling and chatting the entire way as they headed for the restaurant.

Inside, they shared a table in the covered patio where they gazed into each other's eyes and held hands across the table. Eventually, Richards planted a kiss on Sambora's hand – and he returned the gesture, kissing hers. They then kissed again on the lips.

They left the restaurant at 5:45 p.m. in the same car together. Sambora has a home in Westlake Village.
That is a really creepy-sounding article.
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hmm, if this is true that's interesting. I thought Heather and Denise were friends.

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Denise Richards and Richie Sambora have been getting cozy: The pair were spotted kissing in Southern California this weekend, PEOPLE reports.

On Saturday, Richards, 35, and Sambora, 46, the soon-to-be ex-husband of Heather Locklear, arrived at Le Café in the Westlake Village neighborhood outside Los Angeles at about 5 p.m. in separate cars. In the parking lot, the two kissed then walked hand-in-hand, smiling and chatting the entire way as they headed for the restaurant.

Inside, they shared a table in the covered patio where they gazed into each other's eyes and held hands across the table. Eventually, Richards planted a kiss on Sambora's hand – and he returned the gesture, kissing hers. They then kissed again on the lips.

They left the restaurant at 5:45 p.m. in the same car together. Sambora has a home in Westlake Village.
Damn, I'm near Westlake Village, but don't know where 'Le Cafe' is... probably out of my league anyways... And I knew the Locklears/Samboras lived in North Ranch (the expensive part of town), but have never seen then. Then again, I don't live in the expensive part of town I did see Dick Van Dyke though once at a local deli...
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I'm not saying she's lying at all.

but look at the wording...

he was fascinated by the pics of nicole brown simpson could mean he glanced at them twice which only in retrospect creeps her out.

I also highly doubt girls in pigtails aren't common on porn sites. I've seen her in pigtails.

The way these things are strung together makes him look like a real freak. Which he might well be and his reputation backs it up so really the onus is on him isn't it.

I agree. I've seen various autopsy photos, I've seen very horrific crime scene photos, I've taken criminal investigations courses, I've read very lengthy books and reports on various high-profile cases, and all I watch on TV are crime shows. Lord help me if I ever get accused of something because the prosecutor could probably convince the jury I'm a death-obsessed sadist!
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I agree with you here. I don't think he's an angel by far but what she's put in her order for protection doesn't necessarily mean he's this crazy freak that likes looking at dead women's bodies.

When you fill out an order for protection you put in as much detail as possible to make sure the judge grants it. I'm not saying she doesn't deserve or need protection, I have no idea. The things in it though can be largely taken out of context here and misconstrued.

For all we know she is thinking back to seeing him look at photos of Nicole Brown and is just now freaked out by it. I'm guessing it didn't bother her at the time. And I'm sure he's not the only one that got caught up in that case. He could be a total freak but who are we to know.

She's protecting herself and going through an ugly divorce. Likely with a cut throat lawyer advising her.


This is exactly true, and I can speak from experience. I fired my first divorce lawyer because she was trying to make a mountain out of a molehill and make my divorce uglier than it needed to be and I decided I did not want more of my assets going into my attorney's coffers. Lawyers can be real sharks. I can only imagine that those representing the rich and famous celebrities would sensationalise situations with outrageous blown out of proportion allegations for several reasons.....to make SURE a judge will grant in their favor, to make the defendant look horrible and to milk the case for as much money and PR as possible. It really is sad. Not all attorneys are like this, but a couple real sharks can make the whole legal system look bad.

Also, for those who read the entire motion on the smoking gun web page, bear in mind that was not Denise's plea word for word. She met with attorneys who took her facts and information and put together the motion as her "statement" which she then signed and it gets filed with the court. Further proof it is the lawyers who put the case together and try to do what's best for their client (also with outrageous charges!).
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Now there's a real "juicey" addition to this story. Supposedly, Denise asked Charlie if he had anything to do w/ the mysterious death of a recently deceased p@rn star. He replied "no comment" which worried Denise. Charlie had slept w/ this p@rn star on several occassions back in the late 90s.
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Charlie has no reputation to begin with. Denise could say anything, and people will probably believe it. She'll probably continue with sordid stories till she gets the money she wants.

Lila, I'm so impressed - Dick Van Dyke! He's always been one of my favorites!!!
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