Nebraska in the Rose Bowl... wtf?!?!

The Wanderer · 12-09-2001, 03:35 PM

what a joke, I think the computer ranking consist of a drunk ex-little league coach throwing a dart at a board of names, looks like Nebraska was the lucky recipient this year...

not saying they won't give Miami a game, but how do they rank above Colorado -- a team that beat them by 30 or so points only a couple of weeks ago?

Zoo Schabow · 12-09-2001, 03:53 PM

The college football ranking system is a joke. They should have a tournament with the top 16 teams at the end of the year.

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U2Bama · 12-09-2001, 04:36 PM

The Fresno State loss hurt Colorado.

I don't know which one I would have put there.

The Wanderer · 12-09-2001, 05:11 PM

wins against ranked opponents:

Nebraska, 2
Colorado, 5

head to head:

Colorado - 62
Nebraska - 36

Bama, the loss to Fresno St obviously hurt the Buffs computer ranking, but logic here says Colorado deserves to be playing in the Rose Bowl; it reminds me of last year when Miami hammered Florida St, yet the Seminoles got to play Alabama for the National Championship

Foxxern · 12-09-2001, 05:19 PM

So Colorado is ahead of Nebraska in both polls, crushed Nebraska in their head to head meeting, and had a harder schedule, but Nebraska plays Miami for the championship.

Great fuckin' system those assholes put in place there. Simply brilliant.

speedracer · 12-09-2001, 05:32 PM

Not that anyone cares, but here's the BCS formula:

The rating of a team is r1 + r2 + (0.04*s) + L - QW. Lower ratings are better.

r1 is the average of the coaches' and AP polls.

r2 is the average of eight computer rankings.

s is the numerical rank of the strength of schedule. Nebraska and Colorado had the 14th and 2nd toughest schedules in the country, so they receive 0.56 and 0.08 points here, respectively.

L is the number of losses.

QW is some numerical factor relating to quality wins. I don't know how this is computed.

The reason Nebraska wins over Colorado is because the computer polls all have Nebraska 2nd or 3rd, while they have Colorado 4th or 5th.

I'm pretty sure head-to-head matchups don't enter into the computer rankings. By that I mean that although the computers take as their data the scores of all games played, specific games between highly rated teams aren't given higher weight than other games. I could be wrong though.

[This message has been edited by speedracer (edited 12-09-2001).]

U2Bama · 12-09-2001, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Wanderer:
wins against ranked opponents:

Nebraska, 2
Colorado, 5

Bama, the loss to Fresno St obviously hurt the Buffs computer ranking, but logic here says Colorado deserves to be playing in the Rose Bowl; it reminds me of last year when Miami hammered Florida St, yet the Seminoles got to play Alabama for the National Championship

Yes, I just heard Coach Barnett (Colorado) making that point about ranked opponents; he said Florida was the only team to beat more ranked opponents. WIth that stat, I agree that Colorado should be going to Pasadena.

And last year, F.S.U. played Oklahoma (who won it all), NOT Alabama; we were 3-8. But back in 1992, when we went 13-0 and and played undefeated defending National Champs Miami, F.S.U.'s Coach Bowden whined that they should have been playing us instead of Miami, even though Miami had beaten them regular season. I guess the BCS didn't want to hear it from him last year.

A very flawed system indeed.

~U2Alabama

U2Bama · 12-09-2001, 06:03 PM

Independence Bowl! lol.

Does anybody know anything about Iowa State?

The Wanderer · 12-09-2001, 06:11 PM

oops, I meant Oklahoma, I'm thinking years ago when Alabama pummeled Miami in the Sugar Bowl for the National Title, Gino who? (another great Heisman Winner)

well, Bowden got his wish last year, and got embarrased too

U2Bama · 12-09-2001, 07:54 PM

Yes, he did. He complains of Spurrier being a whiner, but perhaps he should look in the mirror.

SicilianGoddess · 12-09-2001, 07:57 PM

My dad will be pleased.

barlowdog · 12-09-2001, 09:07 PM

BCS is a complete sham. Colorado is the hottest team right now and no one seems to realize that Oregon went 10-1(only loss was to a highly ranked Stanford team)and won their conference. And the Pac 10 wasn't that weak this year. At least my Georgia Southern Eagles are still playing, Division 1-AA champs two years running.

U2Bama · 12-09-2001, 09:25 PM

But you're losing your head coach to Navy.

[This message has been edited by U2Bama (edited 12-09-2001).]

hippy · 12-10-2001, 12:11 AM

But you forget the point.... Miami is in the rosebowl too! That's the most important thing!

(hehe, that's my little spurt of school spirit, too bad no UM person will see it, oh well)

GO 'CANES!

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Crzy4Bono · 12-10-2001, 01:15 AM

Well it's all our fault. If my team hadn't choked on LSU we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

**hmph**

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12-09-2001, 03:35 PM	#1
The Wanderer Kid A Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holy Roman Empire Posts: 5,271 Local Time: 03:34 AM	Nebraska in the Rose Bowl... wtf?!?! what a joke, I think the computer ranking consist of a drunk ex-little league coach throwing a dart at a board of names, looks like Nebraska was the lucky recipient this year... not saying they won't give Miami a game, but how do they rank above Colorado -- a team that beat them by 30 or so points only a couple of weeks ago? __________________ __________________

12-09-2001, 03:53 PM	#2
Zoo Schabow Acrobat Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: AFLAC Headquarters Posts: 494 Local Time: 08:34 AM	The college football ranking system is a joke. They should have a tournament with the top 16 teams at the end of the year. ------------------ AFLAC!!!!!! __________________ __________________

12-09-2001, 04:36 PM	#3
U2Bama Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gulf Coast State of Mine Posts: 3,405 Local Time: 02:34 AM	The Fresno State loss hurt Colorado. I don't know which one I would have put there. __________________

12-09-2001, 05:11 PM	#4
The Wanderer Kid A Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holy Roman Empire Posts: 5,271 Local Time: 03:34 AM	wins against ranked opponents: Nebraska, 2 Colorado, 5 head to head: Colorado - 62 Nebraska - 36 Bama, the loss to Fresno St obviously hurt the Buffs computer ranking, but logic here says Colorado deserves to be playing in the Rose Bowl; it reminds me of last year when Miami hammered Florida St, yet the Seminoles got to play Alabama for the National Championship __________________

12-09-2001, 05:19 PM	#5
Foxxern Refugee Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 1,284 Local Time: 02:34 AM	So Colorado is ahead of Nebraska in both polls, crushed Nebraska in their head to head meeting, and had a harder schedule, but Nebraska plays Miami for the championship. Great fuckin' system those assholes put in place there. Simply brilliant. __________________

12-09-2001, 05:32 PM	#6
speedracer Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: MD Posts: 7,604 Local Time: 04:34 AM	Not that anyone cares, but here's the BCS formula: The rating of a team is r1 + r2 + (0.04*s) + L - QW. Lower ratings are better. r1 is the average of the coaches' and AP polls. r2 is the average of eight computer rankings. s is the numerical rank of the strength of schedule. Nebraska and Colorado had the 14th and 2nd toughest schedules in the country, so they receive 0.56 and 0.08 points here, respectively. L is the number of losses. QW is some numerical factor relating to quality wins. I don't know how this is computed. The reason Nebraska wins over Colorado is because the computer polls all have Nebraska 2nd or 3rd, while they have Colorado 4th or 5th. I'm pretty sure head-to-head matchups don't enter into the computer rankings. By that I mean that although the computers take as their data the scores of all games played, specific games between highly rated teams aren't given higher weight than other games. I could be wrong though. [This message has been edited by speedracer (edited 12-09-2001).] __________________

12-09-2001, 06:03 PM	#8
U2Bama Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gulf Coast State of Mine Posts: 3,405 Local Time: 02:34 AM	Independence Bowl! lol. Does anybody know anything about Iowa State? __________________

12-09-2001, 06:11 PM	#9
The Wanderer Kid A Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holy Roman Empire Posts: 5,271 Local Time: 03:34 AM	oops, I meant Oklahoma, I'm thinking years ago when Alabama pummeled Miami in the Sugar Bowl for the National Title, Gino who? (another great Heisman Winner) well, Bowden got his wish last year, and got embarrased too __________________

12-09-2001, 07:54 PM	#10
U2Bama Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gulf Coast State of Mine Posts: 3,405 Local Time: 02:34 AM	Yes, he did. He complains of Spurrier being a whiner, but perhaps he should look in the mirror. __________________

12-09-2001, 07:57 PM	#11
SicilianGoddess Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Smiley Land ? Posts: 4,462 Local Time: 01:34 AM	My dad will be pleased. __________________

12-09-2001, 09:07 PM	#12
barlowdog War Child Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: PA, USA Posts: 672 Local Time: 08:34 AM	BCS is a complete sham. Colorado is the hottest team right now and no one seems to realize that Oregon went 10-1(only loss was to a highly ranked Stanford team)and won their conference. And the Pac 10 wasn't that weak this year. At least my Georgia Southern Eagles are still playing, Division 1-AA champs two years running. __________________

12-09-2001, 09:25 PM	#13
U2Bama Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gulf Coast State of Mine Posts: 3,405 Local Time: 02:34 AM	But you're losing your head coach to Navy. [This message has been edited by U2Bama (edited 12-09-2001).] __________________

12-10-2001, 12:11 AM	#14
hippy ONE<br>love, blood, life Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lookin' for the face I had before the world was made Posts: 12,144 Local Time: 04:34 AM	But you forget the point.... Miami is in the rosebowl too! That's the most important thing! (hehe, that's my little spurt of school spirit, too bad no UM person will see it, oh well) GO 'CANES! ------------------ One love, one life... Give peace a chance! Don't let the bastards grind you down! Bono: I don't walk, I swagger! I sashayed once, but just once. It wasn't for me. __________________

12-10-2001, 01:15 AM	#15
Crzy4Bono Refugee Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: somewhere out there Posts: 1,319 Local Time: 03:34 AM	Well it's all our fault. If my team hadn't choked on LSU we wouldn't even be having this conversation. hmph <<----crzy stomps off ------------------ She's gonna dream up a world she wants to live in / She's gonna dream out loud. Visit my web page at www.u2page.com __________________ __________________

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