NBA Basketball 2007-08: The Thread - Page 5 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Lemonade Stand > Lemonade Stand Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-01-2007, 01:51 PM   #61
Blue Crack Addict
 
Hewson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Your own private Idaho
Posts: 26,498
Local Time: 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Headache in a Suitcase
joakim noah

And he was basically everyone's concensus #1 overall pick had he come out in 2006. Wow.
__________________

__________________
Hewson is offline  
Old 11-01-2007, 03:15 PM   #62
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
CTU2fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 5,366
Local Time: 01:18 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Hewson
I think Chuck knows his stuff, though I disagree on the Nets. However I think he is right about the LeBrons.
I hope so. LeBron is the new Peyton Manning...individual success, media accolades out the wazzoo, never won shit. Though I guess as long as ARod remains championship-less he's relatively safe...
__________________

__________________
CTU2fan is offline  
Old 11-01-2007, 06:53 PM   #63
Refugee
 
thetitans2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,752
Local Time: 05:18 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by CTU2fan


I hope so. LeBron is the new Peyton Manning...individual success, media accolades out the wazzoo, never won shit. Though I guess as long as ARod remains championship-less he's relatively safe...
Did you forget about last years superbowl?
__________________
thetitans2k is offline  
Old 11-01-2007, 07:05 PM   #64
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
CTU2fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 5,366
Local Time: 01:18 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by thetitans2k


Did you forget about last years superbowl?
No I didn't...hence the need for a new Peyton; the old one won his championship and we need a replacement.

I guess I could have just gone with LeBron being the new ARod, but as a Pats fan I enjoy taking gratuitous shots at Peyton. Petty and childish, I know...
__________________
CTU2fan is offline  
Old 11-01-2007, 07:46 PM   #65
Refugee
 
thetitans2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,752
Local Time: 05:18 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by CTU2fan


No I didn't...hence the need for a new Peyton; the old one won his championship and we need a replacement.

I guess I could have just gone with LeBron being the new ARod, but as a Pats fan I enjoy taking gratuitous shots at Peyton. Petty and childish, I know...
That's dumb. There's no need for intersport comparisons.
__________________
thetitans2k is offline  
Old 11-02-2007, 12:40 PM   #66
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Headache in a Suitcase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Stateless
Posts: 56,477
Local Time: 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by thetitans2k
Barkley says the cavs wont make the playoffs. He also says the nets will make the finals. I say charles barkley is an idiot.
while i could certainly see neither of the things that chuck said happening, i could also certainly see them both happening.

if the nets stay healthy they're easily one of the best teams in the east. the problem therein is of course staying healthy. jefferson's proven to be injury prone, as is carter, and kidd's getting old. if the three are all together and healthy, they are as good as anyone else's top 3 in the east with the possible exception of boston.

the cavs made the finals last year thanks largely to the heat getting old fast, the nets being banged up, the wizards being injured, the bulls being over-rated and the pistons simply self combusting... and to top it off, they did absolutely nothing to improve their team in the off-season.
__________________
Headache in a Suitcase is online now  
Old 11-02-2007, 09:12 PM   #67
Refugee
 
thetitans2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,752
Local Time: 05:18 PM
Raps are but raping the nets tonight. With very balanced scoring.
__________________
thetitans2k is offline  
Old 11-02-2007, 09:20 PM   #68
Blue Crack Addict
 
phanan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: in the darkness on the edge of town
Posts: 25,065
Local Time: 12:18 PM
Good start for the Celtics, and their bench looked halfway decent...
__________________
phanan is online now  
Old 11-03-2007, 01:00 AM   #69
ONE
love, blood, life
 
namkcuR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Kettering, Ohio
Posts: 10,290
Local Time: 12:18 PM
I don't see anybody talking about how close Kobe-to-Chicago was to happening on Wednesday/Thursday.

Reliable sources on Chicago radio and ESPN were saying that it was imminent.

Everybody on the Bulls board at RealGM were on the edge of their seats clicking 'refresh' every ten seconds for essentially two days.

The information was that Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf was putting pressure on GM John Paxson to get it done, that the Bulls and Lakers were very seriously talking, and that a deal nearly got done.

And then Paxson addressed the media on Thursday and said 'Everyone knows we've been talking to the Lakers about Kobe, there isn't a deal done, there's not going to be a deal done for now'.

In the time since then, more concrete details have leaked about how close it was to happening.

Apparently, the Lakers wanted Deng, and Chicago wouldn't give him until very late in the talks when Paxson caved and included Deng, and the two teams actually did agree to a deal. However, Kobe vetoed it because he wants Deng on the Bulls with him. 'Veto' simply means that Kobe didn't waive his no-trade clause(the only one in the NBA) and therefore can't be traded. Kobe has unprecedented power over if he gets traded, who he gets traded for, and who is left on his new team when he gets there.

So apparently it was after Kobe rejected the deal(Deng included) that the two teams had agreed to that Paxson came out and said no deal for now.

But the Lakers still want to get it over with, the Bulls are still Kobe's only desired destination, the Bulls are still the team that can put together the best package for him. I still think this is going to happen sooner rather than later.

It's just a matter of the Lakers backing off their absolutely absurd demands. Chicago and Kobe want the same thing - a Bulls team with Kobe on it and enough around him to compete for a title. The Lakers, on the other hand, want to take a huge chunk of the Bulls' core for Kobe.

I haven't seen any details about who else was included in the supposedly rejected deal.
__________________
namkcuR is offline  
Old 11-03-2007, 01:09 AM   #70
Refugee
 
thetitans2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,752
Local Time: 05:18 PM
Lakers win big in phoenix tonight. The whole kobe thing is a bluff for the rest of the league to think that kobe has no help when really his bench is dominant.
__________________
thetitans2k is offline  
Old 11-03-2007, 11:54 AM   #71
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
tpsreports2424's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Let's hug it out, bitch.
Posts: 4,351
Local Time: 11:18 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by thetitans2k
Barkley says the cavs wont make the playoffs. He also says the nets will make the finals. I say charles barkley is an idiot.
He also said the knicks are going to make the playoffs this year...

pfff
__________________
tpsreports2424 is offline  
Old 11-03-2007, 12:30 PM   #72
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
CTU2fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 5,366
Local Time: 01:18 PM
If the Lakers had any balls at all they'd tell him to go fuck himself. Probably not the smartest thing, but honestly this guy's bitching & moaning is way past old.

Oh and re: the Celtics, one of the nice things about KG & Allen coming in is with the C's return to relevance people will start to realize what kind of player Paul Pierce is. Pierce is going to have a great season with legit talent on the floor with him. It's about time.
__________________
CTU2fan is offline  
Old 11-03-2007, 07:32 PM   #73
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Headache in a Suitcase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Stateless
Posts: 56,477
Local Time: 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by namkcuR
I don't see anybody talking about how close Kobe-to-Chicago was to happening on Wednesday/Thursday.

Reliable sources on Chicago radio and ESPN were saying that it was imminent.

Everybody on the Bulls board at RealGM were on the edge of their seats clicking 'refresh' every ten seconds for essentially two days.

The information was that Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf was putting pressure on GM John Paxson to get it done, that the Bulls and Lakers were very seriously talking, and that a deal nearly got done.

And then Paxson addressed the media on Thursday and said 'Everyone knows we've been talking to the Lakers about Kobe, there isn't a deal done, there's not going to be a deal done for now'.

In the time since then, more concrete details have leaked about how close it was to happening.

Apparently, the Lakers wanted Deng, and Chicago wouldn't give him until very late in the talks when Paxson caved and included Deng, and the two teams actually did agree to a deal. However, Kobe vetoed it because he wants Deng on the Bulls with him. 'Veto' simply means that Kobe didn't waive his no-trade clause(the only one in the NBA) and therefore can't be traded. Kobe has unprecedented power over if he gets traded, who he gets traded for, and who is left on his new team when he gets there.

So apparently it was after Kobe rejected the deal(Deng included) that the two teams had agreed to that Paxson came out and said no deal for now.

But the Lakers still want to get it over with, the Bulls are still Kobe's only desired destination, the Bulls are still the team that can put together the best package for him. I still think this is going to happen sooner rather than later.

It's just a matter of the Lakers backing off their absolutely absurd demands. Chicago and Kobe want the same thing - a Bulls team with Kobe on it and enough around him to compete for a title. The Lakers, on the other hand, want to take a huge chunk of the Bulls' core for Kobe.

I haven't seen any details about who else was included in the supposedly rejected deal.
no one's brought it up because most are probably tired of the entire deal and realize that the odds of it ever happening are slim and none.

the lakers are right to ask for as much as they can get for kobe. if they can't get equal value, and they can't, then they shouldn't trade him. let him opt out

and the deal i heard was gordon to sacramento, wallace and artest to LA, kobe to chicago, plus various pieces. great trade for chicago, good trade for sacramento, god awful trade for LA.

it ain't happenin.
__________________
Headache in a Suitcase is online now  
Old 11-03-2007, 08:54 PM   #74
ONE
love, blood, life
 
namkcuR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Kettering, Ohio
Posts: 10,290
Local Time: 12:18 PM
What do you mean chances are slim and none? The deal was agreed to by all teams. Kobe is the only one who said no.
__________________
namkcuR is offline  
Old 11-04-2007, 08:29 AM   #75
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Headache in a Suitcase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Stateless
Posts: 56,477
Local Time: 12:18 PM
i believe you answered your own question.

because kobe has a full no trade clause in his contract he can veto any potential trade. the only way the lakers are trading him, it seems, is if they get close to equal value in return. any trade that nets the lakers equal value will deplete the team that kobe is going to, thus kobe will veto it.

they're running around in circles, and nothing is going to happen unless kobe outright waives his no trade clause.
__________________

__________________
Headache in a Suitcase is online now  
 

Tags
basketball, nba

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com