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Old 10-20-2007, 01:08 PM   #31
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Some people say yes, he will be included but, some say no...
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:21 PM   #32
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Well, in order for the contracts to match up, I don't know how else they will even come close to pulling it off.

meh...
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Old 10-20-2007, 11:10 PM   #33
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I just read this.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/traini...ory?id=3071748

Headache, I thought I might have someone to root for on the Knicks. Nope.
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Adam Morrison out for the season...torn ACL.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:07 PM   #35
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If Kobe gets traded to Chicago, would the Bulls have to include Ben Wallace for contract/money reasons?
technicaly no but it would make it easier.

one of three players would have to go to LA to make it work... either ben wallace, kirk hinrich or andreas nocioni (who can't be traded until december 15th because he just signed a new contract).

you can piece together the rest of it, but one of those three would deffinetly have to be included in any trade for bryant in order to make the money match up.

if you include wallace's monster contract, you don't have to give up as many players to make it work. if you include hinrich, you're gonna have to give up another guy besides the expected tyrus thomas and ben gordon. example... hinrich, thomas, gordon and viktor khryapa works under the cap. khryapa only has one year left and makes 1.9 per, so the lakers would probably take a guy like that if that's what it takes to make the deal work.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...na~na~na~na~na


and yea... houston getting cut sucks. now we're back to having only two guys on the team i actually like.
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:22 PM   #36
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Do you like Quinton Richardson?

I sometimes find myself rooting for him.
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i found myself somewhat liking on him based largely on the fact that reports say that he hates stephon marbury.

i like david lee and renaldo balkman. that... that's about it.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:44 PM   #38
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Does anyone like Stephon Marbury? Who was hated more, Marbury or Francis?

And is Nate Robinson simply a punk?

Can Atlanta put it together this year?

Is this the year Artest loses it again?

I can't wait for the NBA.
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a lot of poeple still do, but no one with a brain does. no one really cared either way about francis.

yes.

no.

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Durant sprained his ankle, left the game on crutches.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:37 PM   #41
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headache's pre-season predictions sure to go wrong

Eastern Conference
1. Boston- Atlantic Winner
2. Chicago- Central Winner
3. Toronto
4. Orlando- Southeast Winner
5. Detroit
6. Cleveland
7. Washington
8. New Jersey
9. Miami
10. New York
11. Indiana
12. Philadelphia
13. Milwaukee
14. Atlanta
15. Charlotte

Western Conference
1. Phoenix- Pacific Winner
2. Dallas - Southwest Winner
3. San Antonio
4. Utah - Northwest winner
5. Houston
6. Golden State
7. Denver
8. Memphis
9. New Orleans
10. Lakers
11. Seattle
12. Clippers
13. Sacramento
14. Portland
15. Minnesota

Finals - Suns over Raptors in 7 games, final score in game 7 of 136-122... in regulation (hey a man can dream, can't he?)

MVP: Amare Stoudamire (with an assist from Nashtyness)
ROY: Mike Conley Jr.
Coach of the Year: Marc Iavaroni

Breakout Star: Andrea Bargnani
Team Kobe will end the year on: Lakers
Will Isiah Coach the Knicks in 2008-2009: Yes
Will it be because he got them to the playoffs?: No
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Most recent reports are saying that Kobe won't ok any trade to Chicago that involves Big Ben(because he wants to play with Big Ben), after having already vetoed any deal involving Deng(Chicago already put Deng off limits anyway). Now the LA front office has been quoted as saying they want Nocioni, that they are very interested in Nocioni.

Of course, what this really means is that in order for any deal with Chicago to work salary-wise, one of three players - Big Ben, Hinrich, Nocioni - would have to be traded. Kobe wants Big Ben in Chicago, Chicago doesn't want to trade Kirk, the Lakers HAVE to take Nocioni if they trade Kobe to Chicago. As of now, the most likely deal is Gordon+Nocioni+Tyrus OR Noah+filler/picks. The Lakers will get screwed in any Kobe deal because the combination of Kobe's demands and the other team's demands leave the Lakers to take whatever scraps are left.

Nocioni can't be traded until December, so if Kobe is traded, it probably won't happen for a couple more months.

Potential post-trade roster...

Wallace
Tyrus or Noah(whichever doesn't go)
Deng
Kobe
Hinrich

Thabo
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Smith
Gray
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:11 PM   #43
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'Toine traded, again.

To T'Wolves:
Antoine
Michael Doleac
Wayne Simian
1st round pick

To Heat:
Ricky Davis
Mark Blount

I really hate the cap in the NBA and NFL. I mean, big picture I guess the cap is a good thing but it's no fun talking trades when you have to sit there with a calculator figuring salary matches (thinking about this LA/Chicago Kobe thing). Just no fun.
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congrats to pat riley and kevin michale for pulling off a trade that accomplishes absolutely nothing
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Old 10-27-2007, 03:15 PM   #45
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I wondered when Ricky Davis would be traded again.
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