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We'll just see then won't we..?
tpsreports2424 said:We'll just see then won't we..?
namkcuR said:And Deng would be the perfect sidekick for Kobe.
do you think most bulls fans just don't like kobe because he is not on the bulls and could be one of the most talented players in the NBA right now?
Got Philk? said:
So was Caron Butler and Lamar Odom...
namkcuR said:
No, no they wouldn't.
You're talking about giving up two guys who will at some point average in the neighborhood of 25ppg, with Deng also in the neighborhood of 6-10 boards per game, PLUS Tyrus, PLUS the draft pick, all for a 30 year old who has 2, maybe 3 years before he starts to really decline.
It would be worth if for those two or three years we had a legitimate no-questions-asked window for a championship, but no matter how bad you think the East is, you are nuts if you think Noc/Kobe/Hinrich/Thabo/Duhon are going to the finals. Seriously.
Headache in a Suitcase said:
lebron & a bunch of bums are 2 games away from the finals. kobe's better than lebron. call me crazy, but, yea...
and the disagreement over who gets the better deal comes over your insistance that deng and gordon are "special" players. frankly, deng has a chance to maybe average 25 a game, but i would not be shocked if neither of them ever did. you're over-rating your players a wee bit too much.
deng, good player.
gordon, nice player.
kobe, great player, potential to be a legendary player.
Headache in a Suitcase said:deserve shmerve... they're there.
you seem to think luol deng is on track to have some hall of fame career. i think he's on track to be an all star a couple of times. kobe's already in the hall of fame, and he's only 28. michael jordan won his first championship at 28. aging superstar? please...
me saying that luol deng is not in the same stratosphere as kobe bryant and never will be is not a diss on luol deng. he's a good player. he should be an all star type player. he's never gonna be kobe bryant.
Headache in a Suitcase said:deserve shmerve... they're there.
you seem to think luol deng is on track to have some hall of fame career. i think he's on track to be an all star a couple of times. kobe's already in the hall of fame, and he's only 28. michael jordan won his first championship at 28. aging superstar? please...
me saying that luol deng is not in the same stratosphere as kobe bryant and never will be is not a diss on luol deng. he's a good player. he should be an all star type player. he's never gonna be kobe bryant.
Headache in a Suitcase said:deserve shmerve... they're there.
you seem to think luol deng is on track to have some hall of fame career. i think he's on track to be an all star a couple of times. kobe's already in the hall of fame, and he's only 28. michael jordan won his first championship at 28. aging superstar? please...
me saying that luol deng is not in the same stratosphere as kobe bryant and never will be is not a diss on luol deng. he's a good player. he should be an all star type player. he's never gonna be kobe bryant.
Umm...in a word, no.Got Philk? said:
I think Deng could be as good as "King" James.
namkcuR said:
I'm not disagreeing with you about Luol. I never said he's going to be HOF or in the same stratosphere as Kobe. All I said was that I do think he'll average 22-25/6-9/2-3 assists at some point. I think him AND Gordon AND a pick is too much for Kobe.
The PRIMARY reason for this is not because I think we're giving up an HOF in Deng, but because I think the team left behind with Kobe is shit. I don't want to watch Kobe carry Hinrich/Noc/whoever all the way to the Finals to lose to the Western champion. I want to watch a full team. I want to watch a GOOD team. I watched my Bulls win six titles. You might think it was just MJ and crap, but you'd be wrong.
If you want to watch the guy try to do it all himself with a mediocre supporting cast, good for you. I only want him on my team if we have a GOOD team around him. And to me, Deng/Hinrich/BigBen is a GOOD team to put around Kobe. Hinrich/Noc/Thabo/Duhon is not.
And one other thing....Noc and #9 cannot be traded together. Noc's contract is up and he has to be resigned before being traded. He can't be resigned until mid-july, the draft is the end of June. We'd have to take LA's guy in the draft and hope they go through with the deal, or we'd be stuck with a rookie we didn't want.