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Old 06-15-2007, 11:57 AM   #421
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I'm not going to belittle another team when one team wins it all. The Spurs are an exception because Bruce Bowen is a punk and Manu is a struggling actor.

I'll concede that the Spurs are a great team and are greatly assembled, it goes to prove what smart front office managing does to a team.

Yeah, Manu will be loving life when David Stern finds a way to fix the flopping.
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:11 PM   #422
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I'm not going to belittle another team when one team wins it all. The Spurs are an exception because Bruce Bowen is a punk and Manu is a struggling actor.

I'll concede that the Spurs are a great team and are greatly assembled, it goes to prove what smart front office managing does to a team.

Yeah, Manu will be loving life when David Stern finds a way to fix the flopping.
If Manu scored, say, 5 points a game, no one would care about his flopping. The fact that he is good and players can't stop him makes people complain to try to find a way.

Saying that Manu has flopped his way to 3 titles does not make sense.
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:15 PM   #423
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I didn't say he was a bad player, but he flops tremendously.

So does Anderson Varajeo.
So does Raja Bell.
So does Andrew Bogut (I saw him take 2 charges on Jameer Nelson, he's about a foot taller than him.)
So does Rip Hamilton.

Tons of players flop, just not as egregiously as Manu. I'd still say he flopped even if he scored 5 points a game, that's a ridiculous point to try and bring up.
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I didn't say he was a bad player, but he flops tremendously.

So does Anderson Varajeo.
So does Raja Bell.
So does Andrew Bogut (I saw him take 2 charges on Jameer Nelson, he's about a foot taller than him.)
So does Rip Hamilton.

Tons of players flop, just not as egregiously as Manu. I'd still say he flopped even if he scored 5 points a game, that's a ridiculous point to try and bring up.
Ok, he is a very good player... but he flops.

Big deal.

The only other good player (in the same league as Manu, at least) on your list above is Rip Hamilton.
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It is a big deal.

I don't want to see one of the better players in the league acting like a ragdoll on the court. My dad and I don't pay season tickets to see players disgrace the game like that.

If it were a pick-up game, Manu would get his ass kicked, but it's the NBA, so he's rewarded.
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It is a big deal.

I don't want to see one of the better players in the league acting like a ragdoll on the court. My dad and I don't pay season tickets to see players disgrace the game like that.

If it were a pick-up game, Manu would get his ass kicked, but it's the NBA, so he's rewarded.
Manu disgraces the game???!!!!

Sorry, you are exaggerating.
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In my opinion, flopping is a disgrace to the game.

Manu flops.

Conventional wisdom tells me, I could be wrong here, Manu disgraces the game.

I'm not against foreign players or the game in other parts of the world, but saying:

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is exaggerating.
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I'm not against foreign players or the game in other parts of the world, but saying:



is exaggerating.
I know.

But at least I am not a flopper.
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I would hope not, man.

Agree to disagree?
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you can't "fix" flopping. you can fix bitching and whining, which tends to follow the flopping, which the nba at least tried to do this season by increasing the amount of T's called. you can't put a rule in against flopping. vlade divac in the 90s was just as bad as manu or any of these other guys. it's not a disgrace to the game... it's part of the game. it's being crafty, it's good gamesmanship. the problem is when guys do it so often that they turn themselves into a joke, not the game... themselves. vlade did it, so has manu. his flops are so blatant and obvious that he really has become a punch line now, to the point where he's known now more for his flopping than he is for his game. which is a shame 'cause he's a good player, but he did it to himself.

the nba may look into the leave the bench rule, but they might not... they didn't look into it after it fucked over the knicks, so why would they look into it after it fucked over the suns?

the spurs are the best run front office in the entire nba. by a significant margin. this can't be denied. tim duncan is one of the greatest power forwards to ever play, maybe the greatest. this, too, can not be denied. but what else can't be denied is that their prefered style of play is as boring as sin. they can play a more uptempt style, they just choose not to.
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Until Duncan has a career defining moment like this:



He can only go as high as #2 all time power forwards.

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In my opinion, flopping is a disgrace to the game.

Manu flops.

Conventional wisdom tells me, I could be wrong here, Manu disgraces the game.

I'm not against foreign players or the game in other parts of the world, but saying:

Mythic flag + legendary comment

is exaggerating.
Yep.
But claiming that

dominated basketball in 2006/07 is not exaggerated

Spain was World Champion
Bargani was the 1st pick
The Spurs are playing a typical Euroleague game : slow, very strict and coherent, a bit boring.
Nowitzki and Parker ( ) won the most prestigious individual prizes.
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Congrats to the Spurs, I hope that Tim Duncan is going to be in the Olympic team.
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Classy. Let's leave the MVP out of this. I'd tell you to be gracious, but I prefer bandwagon fans not be gracious or boastful. I prefer they not exist in the first place.


Maybe if the Wiz start contending for a championship, you can be a hometown fan. Trust me, it's a lot more fun than pulling for a team you actually have a connection to.
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Yep.
But claiming that

dominated basketball in 2006/07 is not exaggerated

Spain was World Champion
Bargani was the 1st pick
The Spurs are playing a typical Euroleague game : slow, very strict and coherent, a bit boring.
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Hey, don't forget that Paul Shirley is playing in Spain. That only bolsters the point of Spain being where it's at.

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appears that kobe has cut his "list" down to new york, chicago or phoenix... with the lakers very unlikely to ever trade kobe to phoenix, that leaves chicago and new york, with chicago being the favorite.
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