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Old 06-23-2007, 05:26 AM   #391
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Did someone mention Showbiz?

The general impression I get from most Muse fans is that Showbiz is a bit under par. Kind of like their very own Pablo Honey. I've never been able to understand that. Okay, so I might be a bit biased... Showbiz was the first Muse album I bought. I think it was in 2004 or 2005 that I got it. A lot of people I knew online were talking about the band, and I thought, hmm, maybe I'll check these guys out. And without asking for recommendations, I decided I'd start from the beginning. After a brief 'getting used to it' period, I quickly found that I'd fallen head over heels for Showbiz. There are some truly amazing songs on that album. Showbiz, Fillip, Cave, Muscle Museum, Sober and Hate This & I'll Love You rank all the way up there for me. It's a very dark album, and I think that's what I love most about it.

So really, if you're a fan and you haven't warmed up to Showbiz, I say just give it a chance.
That's very well said... I started with Origin Of Symetry and when I decided to go back and listen to Showbiz I was like "Hey this is very different from the other one..." Anyway I decided to give it a chance and after a while I fell in love with Muscle Museum and Sunburn (especially after wacthing this last one's videoclip). Nowadays, Showbiz (the song) is on my top 5 Muse songs. I just love the crescendo and Matt's screams. Cave is also a very good dark song, and so on...
As you said, I think this is their darkest album too (though Origin is also dark but it's in a different way), in fact I think they get a little "brighter" with each album (especially the last one). I also think they sound very desperate while in Origin they sound like they want to break some walls
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Old 06-23-2007, 07:04 AM   #392
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Haha I look at the albums kinda the same way:

Showbiz: desperation/despair
Origin of Symmetry: pissed off at whatever made them desperate
Absolution: as the name suggests forgiveness and moving on
Blackholes and Revelations: we are the shit

Something like that anyway.
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Absolution: as the name suggests forgiveness and moving on

I see that one as "I'm depressed and I'm going to stay like this for awhile, feel the pain for a while... Then I'll think about moving on". And I think basically the album is about the end of things and everything that comes with it. I guess it's their most perfect album.
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Man if you start with Origin of Symmetry you're only going downhill after that - amazing single tracks on that

That said, Absolution is the better record when taken all in one sitting. The quartet of New Born, Bliss, Plug in Baby, and Citizen Erased is unbeatable, though.
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I finally watched the Hullabaloo DVD from start to finish. It's amazing how much they matured since then; even compared to Absolution that whole era seems very, I don't know, adolescent. I kinda feel the same way about Origin of Symmetry too - I like it heaps but to me it feels like Muse's "adolescent" album (Showbiz being the "baby" I guess, ).

Good concert, but I really really really hated the frantic editing and all those "creative" angles especially on the faster songs where it almost made me motion-sick. I didn't think that the arty multiple frames worked either. Still, I enjoyed hearing the earlier songs I've never seen performed live and it was interesting to hear Sunburn on guitar rather than the piano even though I still prefer the latter.

I thought that the second behind-the-scene disc was alternately bizarre and tedious, but the Slipknot mask episode (and Matt's crazy witchy laugh) was absolutely priceless,

Regarding Absolution, I grew to love it but I still think it's a tad overlong. Personally I'd get rid of Small Print which I find a pretty dull rocker and maybe Thoughts of a Dying Atheist which is IMO nowhere as intriguing as its name suggests. And Blackout's positioning kinda throws me out a bit - to me it has a very strong "closer" vibe yet there are still more songs following it.
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My favorite keeps switching back and forth between BHAR and Absolution. At the moment I'm writing this post i would say BHAR...but that could change tomorrow
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Regarding Absolution, I grew to love it but I still think it's a tad overlong. Personally I'd get rid of Small Print which I find a pretty dull rocker and maybe Thoughts of a Dying Atheist which is IMO nowhere as intriguing as its name suggests. And Blackout's positioning kinda throws me out a bit - to me it has a very strong "closer" vibe yet there are still more songs following it.
Really? See, I love both of those songs. It's the slower songs I'm not as into on Absolution... I dunno, I don't listen to like, Endlessly and Falling Away With You (for some reason the intro makes me think of One Tree Hill and I always get confused when it plays) enough...also Ruled by Secrecy and Butterflies and Hurricanes...I enjoy the songs when I listen to them, I just don't often feel inclined too. Only when I feel like spinning the whole album

Small Print and Dying Thoughts of an Atheist though ...

but it's all about hysteria and stockholm syndrome, bitches

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but it's all about hysteria and stockholm syndrome, bitches.
No argument from me here, Although I also absolutely adore Sing for Absolution.

Album version of Butterflies & Hurricanes has been somewhat ruined by the live performances for me, I think.
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No argument from me here, Although I also absolutely adore Sing for Absolution.

me too. beautiful tune. Time is Running Out is also fantastic. Absolution is by far their best album imo... Origin of Symmetry is also consistently good, but the standout tracks aren't as amazing as the standout tracks on Absolution. BHAR is really mixed for me. Map of the Problematique, Starlight, Assassin, Supermassive Black Hole, and Exo-Politics are all , but the rest... meh. Knights of Cydonia is fuckin badass at the end when that killer riff kicks in but I think the track is a little over the top. and of course I havent heard Showbiz yet
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Heh, I love Knights of Cydonia so much *because* it's so ridiculously over-the-top, Overall, BHaR is still my favourite Muse album and in my eyes the most consistent, as well. Exo-Politics is the only song I'm not quite as keen on but I like listening to it when exercising at the gym... Muse in general is awesome treadmill music,
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Hysteria is great to work out to... as is Map of the Problematique...yeah i can totally see Muse as being a good work out band. but my best work out bands are Rage Against the Machine and The Fall of Troy. Also, Alien Ant Farm.

on BHAR Soldier's Poem bores the fuck outta me and Invincible rips off this Keane song which is a million times better (and I'm not even a huge Keane fan, i'm just keen on a couple of songs - get it? get it? did you catch that? i hope you all noticed that) City of Delusion and Hoodoo are alright... I dunno they're not bad but they never seem to hook me in. Take a Bow is fine too but somehow it reminds me a lot of New Born, like they picked the same kind of song to open the album I guess
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definitely a great radiohead performance but there is no way that little solo section beats the totally rocking out of Stockholm Syndrome... if you're going to compare Muse and Radiohead on which one is the most badass Muse will kick the shit out of Radiohead everytime. I listen to Radiohead for different reasons than I listen to Muse. That's primarily why I don't get the comparisons
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definitely a great radiohead performance but there is no way that little solo section beats the totally rocking out of Stockholm Syndrome... if you're going to compare Muse and Radiohead on which one is the most badass Muse will kick the shit out of Radiohead everytime. I listen to Radiohead for different reasons than I listen to Muse. That's primarily why I don't get the comparisons
I get what you mean

Muse is purely headbanging music for me

Citizen Erased

New Born:

Radiohead are on another level
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