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MLB Offseason Thread: 2007-2008
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DaveC
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This one's definitely going to last into next season.
phanan
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I love how we start this thread and absolutely nothing is happening. Not such a hot stove so far...
zonelistener
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There's a heck of a lot of speculation coming out of Minnesota. Yanks in talks with the Twins concerning Santana. And now there is word that Joe Nathan may be traded too.
Not liking this as a Twins fan.
Not liking this as a Twins fan.
phanan
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Yeah, I've heard the rumors. I just don't think the Yankees have enough players to give to the Twins, though. Unless they include Joba, which they won't.
zonelistener
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phanan said:
The article I read today said that the Twins are not expecting a lot, unfortunately. He is a free agent next year, so who ever picks him up is only picking him up for a year.
I guess trading him at least gets you something, right? That or you lose him to free agency next year and get nothing.
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I read today that the twins are thinking about changing their logo to this:
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zonelistener said:
Well the good news for you is that Mark Prior ... er ... Fransico Lirano should be back next season. No seriously, he's completely healthy. 100%. Dusty Baker told me.
phanan
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zonelistener said:
True enough, and in that case, I wouldn't be surprised if the Red Sox were looking into it as well.
I think whatever team picks him up would try to work out an extension as part of the deal, though.
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Dalton said:
We'll see how he does against Detroit this year - and then you can talk!
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phanan said:
Done. They were mentioned (only because the Yankees were mentioned).
Don't tell No Spoken Words this (he hasn't been around in a few days anyway), but I rather see him pitch in Fenway than in the pinstripes in the Bronx.
Dalton
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Will the Tigers be participating in his simulated games?
I hope not, I've heard those towels are a bitch to hit.
I hope not, I've heard those towels are a bitch to hit.
zonelistener
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Dalton said:
Yeah...it will be Kenny versus Francisco!
Dalton
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Zoney, zoney, zoney. You had it, but ya missed it. Let me help.
Yeah...it will be JOEL versus Francisco!
I'm a giver. That's what I do. I give.
Yeah...it will be JOEL versus Francisco!
I'm a giver. That's what I do. I give.
zonelistener
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Crap.
Wait, You went college?
Wait, You went college?
Dalton
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zonelistener said:
And with THAT I'm off to bed.
Mr. BAW
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That didn't take long; Torii Hunter's already at a Laker game...
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I'm hearing the Twins want Melky, Hughes, and another guy, and the Yankees would rather Kennedy than Hughes...either way that is a horrible horrible deal for Minnesota. One has to wonder if Johan's no-trade clause is playing into this, and he'll only agree to go to the Yankees, or to a short list of teams including the Yankees - like the Griffey situation where he told the world it was the Reds or nothing. The Sox, Angels, or Dodgers could all put together better offers than that...especially the LA teams because they have more young position players that the Twins can use; Twins have a bunch of young pitching already.
If it's the Yankees the Twins should insist on Joba & Cano, and if they won't do it tell Hal & Hank to go fly a kite.
If it's the Yankees the Twins should insist on Joba & Cano, and if they won't do it tell Hal & Hank to go fly a kite.
the yankees are going to have to give up a lot to get santana... because you know omar and theo are getting on the horn as we speak.
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Word is the Twinkies have told the Sox Ellsbury must be included in any trade proposal for Carlos Santana.
If true, then the Sox are likely out. They want to package Coco and a couple of young pitchers (Lester and Buccholz maybe), but its doubtful they'll part with Ellsbury unless the rest of the package were significantly less, like Ellsbury, Tavarez and Mirabelli.
So expect Santana to land in NY, just a question of which team. The Mets can make a legit run cause the Twins are said to be more interested in position players thatn pitchers, so the Mets young outfield prospects may stack up against Hughes and Kennedy as trade bait.
If true, then the Sox are likely out. They want to package Coco and a couple of young pitchers (Lester and Buccholz maybe), but its doubtful they'll part with Ellsbury unless the rest of the package were significantly less, like Ellsbury, Tavarez and Mirabelli.
So expect Santana to land in NY, just a question of which team. The Mets can make a legit run cause the Twins are said to be more interested in position players thatn pitchers, so the Mets young outfield prospects may stack up against Hughes and Kennedy as trade bait.
if they want reyes and one young pitching prospect, then can have 'em.
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Hewson said:
Damn. Imagine what they would demand for JOHAN Santana.
i believe he knew he called him carlos.
Dalton
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I choose to believe otherwise. Its more fun to imagine that the rest of you are incompetent idiots.
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Believe what you will Daltrey.Dalton said:
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Who do these DRays think they are, trying to build a real baseball team, with, like, pitchers & stuff? The nerve.
Seriously, love the deal for the Rays, and the Percival signing. Good job selling high on the overrated Delmon Young (but don't tell him I said that, he'll throw a bat at me ONOZ).
Seriously, love the deal for the Rays, and the Percival signing. Good job selling high on the overrated Delmon Young (but don't tell him I said that, he'll throw a bat at me ONOZ).
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While I don't like the idea of giving up Lowry, who is projected to become the Sox shortstop probably within a year or so and has looked good so far, for Johan Santana, I would easily do this deal if true. Lester has some big league experience, and while he can still develop, I haven't seen anything yet to suggest he'd be more than a #4 starter, whereas Buchholz has obviously made a bigger splash. And including Crisp instead of Ellsbury is a no-brainer.
This would be a great deal for both sides. Minnesota gets Crisp and Lester, another pitching prospect, and Lowry, which is fantastic when they know they won't get anything for Santana when he leaves after this upcoming season.
And as for Boston, they get the best pitcher in the game and don't have to give up Ellsbury or Buchholz.
Santana and Beckett at the top of the rotation would be absolutely sick.
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If they can sign Johan Sebastian Santana to a reasonable extension (like 20 mil per, how in the world did that become "reasonable"?) then the Sox would have to make that deal.
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I'd kind of like to hang on to Jed Lowrie as well, because with him the Red Sox have a chance of unloading Julio Lugo on some other team. Other than that, sounds like a good deal.
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