MLB Offseason Thread: 2007-2008

[Dalton]

he'll hit a lot of homeruns in that park as he's a dead pull hitter, but he'll play a terrible third base, and on top of it, probably not a good idea to trade for miguel tejada the day before the mitchell report comes out. not good for the ole PR

Its a lot better to trade for him the day BEFORE the mitchell report than the day AFTER.

Probably factored into the decision.

 

[Hewson]

Its a lot better to trade for him the day BEFORE the mitchell report than the day AFTER.

Probably factored into the decision.

Factored into the Oriole's thinking, knowing that they would get a lot less in return after. Again, the Astros look kind of silly.
Tomorrow they could have traded Scott for Tejada straight up, or maybe the O's would have had to throw in a prospect to get it done.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Its a lot better to trade for him the day BEFORE the mitchell report than the day AFTER.

Probably factored into the decision.

i guess... but it's gonna look bad either way. if he's on the list, you don't want him.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Apparently Mike & the Mad Dog got a scoop on some of the names on the list...the look on Mike's face has me thinking high-profile Yankee.

Not sure if there's an obvious Phillie on the list. Not a bunch of workout freaks, that crew. Are they even going back that far? I get the impression a lot of the info came from Radomski, so I'm thinking lots of mid to late 90s guys.

oh there's most certainly an extremely obvious steroid user on that phillies team that lost to the blue jays in the series.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

The Mitchell Report exposes a "serious drug culture within baseball, from top to bottom," fingers MVPs and All-Stars and calls for beefed-up testing by an outside agency to clean up the game, The Associated Press learned Wednesday.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

reports are coming out now that the former trainer of roger clemens obtained performance enhancing drugs.

and here i thought i wouldn't care about the mitchell report

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

clemens and pettite, named by jason grimsley... reported that the former trainer for both of them has obtained steroids in the past.

 

[Hewson]

Roger Clemens?? There is no evidence in his physique changing:

 

[Hewson]

I mean its not like his head is any bigger ala Barry Bonds:

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

he's very even tempered, too. never loses control of his emotions... neeeever.

 

[Hewson]

he's very even tempered, too. never loses control of his emotions... neeeever.

Just ask his BFF Mike Piazza.

 

[phanan]

Clemens? No, that would never happen. Neeeeever.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Just ask his BFF Mike Piazza.

pssst... who also might be on the list

 

[Hewson]

So who will be shocked at the name coughJasonVaritekcough if its on the list?

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

at work earlier we were trying to come up with names that aren't out there who we thought could be on the list. the pool includes piazza, ryan howard, jeff bagwell, tino martinez, darren dreifort, david ortiz and jose reyes.

winner gets 10 bucks... that's right... 10 bucks!

 

[phanan]

I'm thinking that most of the players on this report will be longtime veterans and retired players, and not a lot of the younger ones like Howard or Reyes, although I could be way off.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

just to note i took tino martinez

 

[phanan]

That's probably a good bet, along with his buddy Paul O'Neil.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

from nytimes.com

A former trainer for Roger Clemens, winner of seven Cy Young Awards, provided information about Clemens's steroid use to investigators for former Senator George Mitchell, who will release a report Thursday on steroids in baseball, two lawyers familiar with the investigation said Thursday.

The trainer, Brian McNamee, also provided information about steroid use by pitcher Andy Pettite and first baseman David Segui, the lawyers said. McNamee spoke to Mitchell’s investigators under pressure from federal prosecutors investigating the use of steroids in baseball.

Mitchell is to release his 304-page report, covering 20 months of investigation, Thursday afternoon. More than 50 players are named in the report, according to individuals who saw the report.

Clemens had previously been suspected of steroid usage, but denied it. This report would be the first confirmation that McNamee provided testimony about Clemens.

Clemens and Pettitte helped lead the New York Yankees to one of the most dominant winning streaks in baseball. Pettitte pitched for the Yankees when they won three consecutive World Series from 1998 to 2000. In a conference call Wednesday to discuss his 2008 contract with the Yankees, Pettitte said that he was not working out with McNamee and did not know if McNamee had spoken to Mitchell’s investigators.

Clemens pitched for the Yankees from 1999 through 2003.

Clemens had a 40-39 record from 1993 through 1996 and was not re-signed by the Boston Red Sox. The next year, he signed with the Toronto Blue Jays and began working out with McNamee.

Clemens had two of the best years in pitching history in 1997 and 1998, winning the Cy Young Award in both seasons and also led the league in wins, earned run average and strikeouts.

Clemens, who retired last season, has been considered one of the best pitchers in baseball history. Information and evidence from McNamee could raise questions about whether Clemens should be elected to the Hall of Fame.

More negative information about former Yankees is expected to be included in the Mitchell report, sources said.

 

[phanan]

Clemens had a 40-39 record from 1993 through 1996 and was not re-signed by the Boston Red Sox. The next year, he signed with the Toronto Blue Jays and began working out with McNamee.

Clemens had two of the best years in pitching history in 1997 and 1998, winning the Cy Young Award in both seasons and also led the league in wins, earned run average and strikeouts.

Perhaps Dan Duquette was right all along...

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

from what i'm hearing on the radio... no current mets are on the list, but some former mets are (piazza? dykstra?), and it's going to be a very dark day for the yankees.

 

[speedracer]

So who will be shocked at the name coughJasonVaritekcough if its on the list?

Probably also this one former Red Sox icon...to protect his identity we'll simply say that his first name starts with a 'N' and rhymes with 'Omar'.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

eh hem... rhymes with omaaahhhhh

 

[No spoken words]

This will make no sense, but, it would bum me out if Varitek were on the list.

 

[No spoken words]

That being said.....

Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Bar ry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton B radley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozz ie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenn y Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Fr anklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Jua n Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi,Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez, Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood.

Unreal. I don't even know how I feel.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

is that official?

 

[No spoken words]

is that official?

Supposedly. I trust the source, but, it could still be off a bit.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

ok so that list is being confirmed by two sources but disputed by major league baseball

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

pujols takes a serious hit here if that's confirmed.

 

[No spoken words]

That list is posted on sites already??? Wow, I either got it late, or, news travels fast.