MLB Hot Stove Edition

[Hewson]

Yes strictly numbers Walker compares with Rice, but you know as well as I that had Jim Rice played 15 years later and played a number of seasons in Coors, that his power numbers would be approaching Mays/Bonds/Ruth/Aaron numbers.

 

[Chizip]

Yes strictly numbers Walker compares with Rice, but you know as well as I that had Jim Rice played 15 years later and played a number of seasons in Coors, that his power numbers would be approaching Mays/Bonds/Ruth/Aaron numbers.

or if he played for a different team than the red sox he could have been a .277 career hitter and he wouldnt even be mentioned as a hof candidate.

 

[phanan]

I don't see how you can compare stats from different eras. It's like comparing apples and oranges.

 

[randhail]

I don't see how you can compare stats from different eras. It's like comparing apples and oranges.

especially given the smaller parks, juice, and lower quality pitching we had in the 90's.

 

[Hewson]

or if he played for a different team than the red sox he could have been a .277 career hitter and he wouldnt even be mentioned as a hof candidate.

Do me a favor, look up Carl Yastrzemski's career batting average.

Longevity(lack thereof) and attitude towards press are the only things keeping Rice out.

 

[Chizip]

well i never meant to compare them, just used walker as an example of a hitter who used homefield as an advantage to inflate his stats, much like Rice did

then i decided to check the numbers just for kicks and saw that Walker had an OPS over 100 points higher than Rice. and while he played in a different offensive era, is that enough to make up over 100 points in OPS? thats a large margin. so i dont think its absolutely ridiculous to compare them as hewson had made it seem.

 

[Chizip]

Do me a favor, look up Carl Yastrzemski's career batting average.

Longevity(lack thereof) and attitude towards press are the only things keeping Rice out.

longevity is a huuuuge factor in the hall of fame though. gotta have those career totals up there to impress. yastrzemski had over 450 home runs, rice had 382. not to mention 1000 more hits.

 

[phanan]

If longevity was such a huge factor, Bruce Sutter wouldn't have been elected yesterday.

 

[Chizip]

well maybe too many writers have read Bill James' “New Historical Baseball Abstract” where he called Rice the most overrated player of the past 30 years

oh yeah, james works for the red sox too

 

[speedracer]

Yeah. Bill James also said you don't need a closer.

Bill James says a lot of things.

 

[Chizip]

but he definitely knows his statistics

and i really dont care if rice gets in or not, im just saying i can see why people wouldnt vote for him

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

i guess john franco can start packing his bags for cooperstown now that bruce sutter is in.

 

[phanan]

The Red Sox just picked up Julian Tavarez.

Hey, if we won't be able to hit like we used to, shoring up the bullpen is a major requirement.

 

[phanan]

The Hot Stove ain't so hot anymore.

 

[Chizip]

are you kidding me? the cardinals just signed Jeff Nelson, i can taste the world series already

 

[phanan]

Hey, at least your Sock thread over at Coldplaying is still going strong!

 

[popacrobat]

Cardinals manager Tony La Russa indicated yesterday that Jim Edmonds would open the season batting fourth between Albert Pujols and Scott Rolen.



larry bigbie or junior spivey batting second

 

[Hewson]

Cardinals manager Tony LaRussa indicated yesterday that the Cardinals would get off to a flying start, peak in August and suffer an embarassing playoff exit once again in 2006.

 

[Chizip]

Abreu to the Cardinals, you heard it here first.

 

[Numb1075]

Chizip, any truth or is this just wishful thinking?

 

[Chizip]

Chizip, any truth or is this just wishful thinking?

crazy messageboard speculation, some guy on a cards site said he had an inside source and the deal would go through tomorrow

soooooo, the chances of it actually happening is about .0001%

 

[phanan]

And just who exactly would they trade for Abreu, anyway?

 

[Chizip]

And just who exactly would they trade for Abreu, anyway?

Marquis and 2 prospects

 

[Miroslava]

New thread time boys

 

[speedracer]

Over 500 posts, and opening day is still 2.5 months away. If we keep things on the DL, maybe we can hit 1000 and crash the server.

 

[speedracer]

New thread time boys

Damn. Somebody must have ratted us out...

 

[phanan]

Damn. Somebody must have ratted us out...

Chizip...

 

[Miroslava]

I said new thread.

Now.

 

[Chizip]

no

 

[Miroslava]

HA!