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Old 09-21-2005, 11:08 AM   #256
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The Sox need it to. Since last year I've met many Sox fans who don't know who Jim Rice or Dwight Evans were.
Probably my 2 favorite Sox players all time.

I almost literally bumped into Jim Rice on Aug 23 while heading to the Stones' show at Fenway, he was heading into the NESN studio for pregame, dressed in shorts and sneakers, carrying his suit and fancy boots. I like hearing some of Rice's criticism of players getting days off these days, I remember he played 163 games in 1978, still one of the greatest offensive seasons ever considering the era and the numbers he put up. The man should be in the hall of fame, had he stayed healthy enough to play 1 more season and hit the 400 HR level, it'd be a no brainer.

As for Dewey Evans, nobody played the game harder and nobody will ever play RF at Fenway as well. At the start of his career he was a below average hitter but worked himself into an above average hitter as his career progressed. Unparallelled work ethic.
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Old 09-21-2005, 11:55 AM   #257
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Funny how you reappear all of the sudden but go away when the Yankees suck...
Yup, it is funny.... maybe for you

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Probably my 2 favorite Sox players all time.

I almost literally bumped into Jim Rice on Aug 23 while heading to the Stones' show at Fenway, he was heading into the NESN studio for pregame, dressed in shorts and sneakers, carrying his suit and fancy boots. I like hearing some of Rice's criticism of players getting days off these days, I remember he played 163 games in 1978, still one of the greatest offensive seasons ever considering the era and the numbers he put up. The man should be in the hall of fame, had he stayed healthy enough to play 1 more season and hit the 400 HR level, it'd be a no brainer.

As for Dewey Evans, nobody played the game harder and nobody will ever play RF at Fenway as well. At the start of his career he was a below average hitter but worked himself into an above average hitter as his career progressed. Unparallelled work ethic.
there was a kid at camp this year who looked just like jim rice, only a little fatter... we called him "overweight jim rice"

i laughed.
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Old 09-21-2005, 12:59 PM   #259
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The Sox yesterday made all of the rookies dress in drag before departing the clubhouse for the flight to Tampa. Local kid Manny Delcarmen had the best -- or worst -- costume of the bunch. Delcarmen was decked out in a black-and-teal Witchy La Bouf costume, complete with hat, bustier, tutu, and fishnet hose. 'My mom is going to love this,' he said."

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I was actually lucky enough to get "behind the scenes" access into Shea stadium last year (knew a security guy working there)....I got into the dugout, on field for BP, in bullpen and chatted w/ Al Leiter, got lots of autographs etc...

but my point is, the Pittsburgh Pirate rookies had to do this as well. I was 5 feet from them as they strolled by wearing such ludicrous outfits as those above. it was awsome
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Below is the AL MVP's since the DH was started...

2004 Vladimir Guerrero Anaheim RF
2003 Alex Rodriguez Texas SS
2002 Miguel Tejada Oakland SS
2001 Ichiro Suzuki Seattle RF
2000 Jason Giambi Oakland 1B
1999 Ivan Rodriguez Texas C
1998 Juan Gonzalez Texas OF
1997 Ken Griffey, Jr. Seattle OF
1996 Juan Gonzalez Texas OF
1995 Mo Vaughn Boston 1B
1994 Frank Thomas Chicago 1B
1993 Frank Thomas Chicago 1B
1992 Dennis Eckersley Oakland P
1991 Cal Ripken, Jr. Baltimore SS
1990 Rickey Henderson Oakland OF
1989 Robin Yount Milwaukee OF
1988 Jose Canseco Oakland OF
1987 George Bell Toronto OF
1986 Roger Clemens Boston P
1985 Don Mattingly New York 1B
1984 Willie Hernandez Detroit P
1983 Cal Ripken, Jr. Baltimore SS
1982 Robin Yount Milwaukee SS
1981 Rollie Fingers Milwaukee P
1980 George Brett Kansas City 3B
1979 Don Baylor California OF
1978 Jim Rice Boston OF
1977 Rod Carew Minnesota 1B
1976 Thurman Munson New York C
1975 Fred Lynn Boston OF
1974 Jeff Burroughs Texas

as you can see no DH has won & none will, just not that important of a position to warrant it.
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Yet there are a couple of pitchers on there who only participate once every five games...

And as far as I know, we're entering uncharted territory here because never has there been a DH who has put up these types of numbers.
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Yet there are a couple of pitchers on there who only participate once every five games...

And as far as I know, we're entering uncharted territory here because never has there been a DH who has put up these types of numbers.
Exactly. If a pitcher can win it, so can a DH.

Simple logic.
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as you can see no DH has won & none will, just not that important of a position to warrant it.
That's a great way to look at things.



DHs contribute nothing to the game of baseball. Call Bud up that list of MVPs and I'm sure he'll be convinced to abolish the DH.
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i think travis hafner should be the mvp

a-rod maybe though because if you think the yankees are nowhere without him
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a-rod maybe though because if you think the yankees are nowhere without him

The Red Sox would be in deeper shit without Ortiz than the Yanks without Slappy
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The Red Sox would be in deeper shit without Ortiz than the Yanks without Slappy
haha slappy...

I actually think if you take away ortiz and a-rod neither team would be very good

the redsox would still be better though
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Well, the Chicago White Sox haven't lost the pennant yet.

Here are my back-of-the-envelope calculations:
You cannot apply math to the Chicago White Sox...even if it is "fuzzy math."

Math requires some logic.

White Sox and logic...oil and water.

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haha slappy...

I actually think if you take away ortiz and a-rod neither team would be very good

the redsox would still be better though
If the playoffs started now, the Red Sox would be playing golf.
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