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Old 09-16-2005, 02:42 PM   #196
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I was just guessing with eck, don't have time to look up everything, I got a real job unlike you
Thats a great comeback.
You know nothing about my job, but rest assured its quite real. I'll wager I've been at it a lot longer than you have yours as well.
If you can't keep uninformed petty personal attacks out of your posts, and have a reasonable discussion, please refrain from responding to me.


And I didn't need to look up the 51 saves number, remembered it quite clearly.
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:42 PM   #197
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you know if you had read my first post, that's what it was about.
The AL not counting those apperances when they should.

[one note: since the AL has some DUMBASS rule that they don't count AB's from the NL, Placido Polnaco who has the HIGHEST AVG in the AL, 3rd overall in MLB can't be awarded the batting title. Since there is interleague play its time to change the rule....]

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Old 09-16-2005, 02:50 PM   #198
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I did read your first Jayson Stark lifted comments, if you paid attention, you'd realize there need be some restrictions in place, thats what I've been trying to explain. Polanco can't use NL appearances for the AL, just like a guy can't claim the batting title for going 1 for 1 as Politte has this season. I know thats an extreme example, but its necessary in this case for illustration.

Lets say in 2006, David Ortiz hits 28 homers for the Red Sox by July 31, then gets traded to the Cardinals to shore up their 1st base defense, hits another 17 in August and September...the league leader in Home Runs is Jose Reyes (hey he's having a power surge lately) with 44.
Should Ortiz then be the 2006 NL homerun champ? (And also gold glover at first base?)
Think about it.
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I talked about this weeks ago before Jason whoever?? my point is since interleague play is in effect & those stats count vs each other, why penalize a guy for being traded? if he has the best average, most HR's
gold gloves are voted by the players/managers so that should apply too.
you still would have to appear 502 times total.
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But the point is they are league awards, and he needs to lead the particular league in a category.
If they ever decide to hand out awards just for MLB and not AL and NL, then Polanco would have enough appearances to qualify. (Rest assured the players will never go for this, it would cut the award winners in half, also halving the number of possible salary bonuses)
Of course when his averages from Philly and Detroit are combined, he wouldn't win the MLB batting crown, so no award anyway.
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then get rid of interleague play. the DH, & bud selig
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Interleague play has been a box office boon for many teams, its going nowhere.
The DH has been around for over 30 years, the game as a whole has become very specialized, with relieveres brought in for one batter a lot, so the likelihood of the DH being eliminated is slim.
Selig...we couldn't be so lucky as to have him resign. Maybe he should take over FEMA for Mike "we're working on that" Brown, it would strengthen 2 organizations.
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as for mvp I never said anything about pitchers. that bum ortiz just need a little chin music to get his fat ass off the plate, then he won't hit anything. the only place that this BS talk goes on is in mass. heck I'd put Wickman from cleve up there with 41 saves.
That bum Ortiz has had a hell of a year, and they certainly aren't talking about him just here. That's why we see the raging MVP debate in columns at ESPN, cnnsi.com, etc.

Wickman, now there's a bum having a fluke year. Talk about a fat ass...
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Wickman is rather portly
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Wickman could destroy a buffet table in either league.
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so could a few other guys...wells, ortiz, molinas'
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for your info it is PLATE APPERANCES not At bats which count towards the title, 502 to be exact, so that bull you wrote above if just that. Since the leagues now play each other during the season the rule should be changed.
as for mvp I never said anything about pitchers. that bum ortiz just need a little chin music to get his fat ass off the plate, then he won't hit anything. the only place that this BS talk goes on is in mass. heck I'd put Wickman from cleve up there with 41 saves.
ya see what some time in massachusets will do to a person? and here you thought i was nuts...
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Old 09-16-2005, 05:10 PM   #208
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Why is John Rocker posting here?
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no no no...its his sister, Ima.
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you mean the yankees and the white sox... who are on the verge of blowing a 15 game lead to the indians.
Actually, I believe when they were 15 games ahead, the Twins were in second. I think the Indians were two or three behind the Twins.

Gotta give credit to the Tribe!


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One word: Wisconsin.
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