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Old 04-10-2006, 01:11 PM   #121
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boston shouldn't do anything with manny unless the two horses at the top of the rotation get hurt... 'cause if those two stay healthy the red sox have to be the favorites to win the american league...

now if they go down, their pitching falls apart and they could miss the playoffs all together... at which point trading manny for pitching would be a good idea. but until then, i wouldn't do anything.

unless my name was steve phillips.
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Old 04-10-2006, 01:31 PM   #122
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You can never have too much pitching, but given the quality of arms that the Sox have in their farm system, trading Manny for more pitching prospects would make no sense. It would leave a gaping hole in the lineup that any pitching staff would be hard pressed to offset. I'll take Beckett, Papelbon, Lester, Hansen, and Delcarmen with Manny in my lineup thank you very much.


Any young pitcher who is directly related to Jeff Weaver would raise some red flags for me as well.
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Angels have pitching coming out of their ass. Bosox would do well to offer Manny straight up for Juan Rivera and Jered Weaver. Weaver has looked fantastic this spring -- he's in triple A -- and scioscia said he'd have no problem pitching him in a major league game. Sox would pay at least 90% of Manny's remaining salary in my scenario.
Getting frustrated in your team's offense so soon, eh?

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Old 04-10-2006, 01:33 PM   #124
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Thanks for the laugh.

You have noticed the Bosox' 5-1 start and outstanding pitching right?
Schilling and Wakefield are pushing 40. I'd say you could use some pitching depth.

Oh, and, most all the sports sites seem to have no problem getting the Angels' name right -- but, wait, you're a Red Sox fan. That explains it.
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Apparently you missed all the young arms we have that randhail just rattled off...

We have plenty of pitching depth as it is.
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You can never have too much pitching, but given the quality of arms that the Sox have in their farm system, trading Manny more pitching prospects would make no sense.

Actually, it would make sense. Jered Weaver is pretty much major-league ready right now. He was a first round draft pick.
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Apparently you missed all the young arms we have that randhail just rattled off...

We have plenty of pitching depth as it is.
lol...so how's your bullpen?
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lol...so how's your bullpen?
Papelbon looks pretty good to me so far.

And on a wholly unrelated note, here's a hilarious video of Game 6 of the 1986 World Series:

http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/2006...e_6_reena.html
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Actually, it would make sense. Jered Weaver is pretty much major-league ready right now. He was a first round draft pick.
Brien Taylor and Todd Van Poppel were first round picks as well. I wouldn't put too much stock in where a guy was drafted.

So the Sox trade Manny for an unproven pitcher and I'm even willing to say that he succeeds, but it cripples the line-up. It would be like the Angels' line up right now. How would that help the Sox?
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i had two brien taylor rookie cards... they were worth like 50 bucks each when he was still in the minor leagues.

now they're worth about a quarter. shoulda sold high
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There a lot of people out there that were going to retire with the money from their cards.

I'd be lying if I said that I would've killed to get my hands on an '89 Upper Deck Griffey rookie card - that was our generation's holy grail.
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trading manny and not getting any hitting in return would ruin the Sawx. Who in their right mind you put any pitch remotley in the strike zone to David Ortiz. It would be like the Giants line up.
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Brien Taylor and Todd Van Poppel were first round picks as well. I wouldn't put too much stock in where a guy was drafted.

So the Sox trade Manny for an unproven pitcher and I'm even willing to say that he succeeds, but it cripples the line-up. It would be like the Angels' line up right now. How would that help the Sox?
Pubbie's just frustrated that The Eastern Japan Angies of Southern Alaska can't hit.
He knows his GM blew it this offseason, and he's gonna have to battle the Rangers to stay out of the NL West cellar, he's grasping at straws that the Sox would dump Manny for 2 mediocre pitching prospects and pay his salary. Fantasy baseball is on yahoo my friend.
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lol...so how's your bullpen?
Pretty damn impressive so far, with Hansen and Delcarmen waiting in the wings, too.
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[q]Jered Weaver made a brilliant debut at the Triple-A level on Saturday. Pitching in a ballpark (Tucson) that is the minor league equivalent of Colorado's Coors Field and against a lineup featuring two of the top prospects in baseball (Stephen Drew and Carlos Quentin), Weaver allowed only two hits, no walks, and one run while striking out eight batters over seven innings.

Here are Jered's last four outings, including his three spring training starts:

IP H R ER BB SO
04/08/06 vs. Tuc 7 2 1 1 0 8 W
03/30/06 vs. SFG 5 2 0 0 1 4 W
03/17/06 vs. Oak 5 2 0 0 0 5 -
03/12/06 vs. CWS 4 2 0 0 2 2 -
Totals 21 8 1 1 3 19 2-0

Peter Gammons saw Weaver in person earlier this spring and said his "stuff is far more powerful than that of his brother." Buster Olney called Weaver "terrific" and said that he keeps hearing that he "looks great."[/q]

I'm not dying to see the Angels trade Weaver, believe me.
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