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Old 05-17-2006, 11:22 AM   #451
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I always thought Randy Johnson would make it to 300 as well, but seeing him pitch this year, one wonders if he's starting to break down...
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Observation: every team in the NL west is at or above .500.

last season, they were all under .500 (except for SD, who finished like 2 games over)
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well johnson is a 43 year old power pitcher who's 32 wins short. glavine's a 40 year old control pitcher who's 19 wins short.

the way glavine pitches is more conducive to lasting into his early 40s... johnson's never had great control, and now that he's losing speed on his fast ball, he's falling apart. it's not as shocking as it first seems... the man is 43 years old. gotta break down eventually.

which makes me wonder about what clemens will be like when he comes back
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Observation: every team in the NL west is at or above .500.

last season, they were all under .500 (except for SD, who finished like 2 games over)
there's only 5 teams in the entire national league under .500, and that includes the braves who are only a game under. strange year
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Clemens says he'll make a decision by june 15th.

WTF?

I think if he's making everyone wait on his decision, I think he will return.
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one of two things is going on here...

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a) clemens knows he's at an age where he can only be the real roger clemens for a few months before he starts to break down

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b) he's not coming back and is going to stay retired.


he has to see randy johnson completely falling apart and worry about that... now physicaly they're obviously different people, and clemens has always been in spectacular shape (well... except for the tail end of his career in boston)... but i would imagine it has to worry him.
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It's a combination of choice A, and seeing which team at that point in the season has the best chance of making the playoffs, although I'm not sure that will be so clear cut for him yet.

If Houston is still in the thick of things by the beginning of June, I think he just goes back to them, although Boston would indeed be intriguing to him.
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Actually, I just had a interesting idea...

Clemens is most likely worried he could break down at some point during the year and wants it to be as short as possible.

David Wells is currently rehabilitating, but you've got to think he's a long shot to come back and get through the rest of the season in his condition. His knee is pretty much shot.

But, say Boston could pick up Clemens - what I would do is alternate their starts. Clemens goes one week, and then when that spot in the rotation comes up again, Wells goes. Then back to Clemens, and so forth. By alternating starts, the wear and tear would be far less, and their 40+ bodies could handle it better.

I think that could work very nicely, for both of them. They could finish their careers on a high note.
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I wouldn't necessarily compare Randy Johnson's situation to Roger Clemens'.
For Clemens a more favorable comparison would be Nolan Ryan who pitched fairly effectively until age 47.
Johnson's 6'10" rather slight (at least compared to Clemens/Ryan) frame is far more conducive to mechanics issues and a breakdown than Roger.
Clemens' workout regimen is second to none, including Jerry Rice and "the hill". He'll be effective if he decides to return. I think with him the decision is based solely on family issues, and the June 15 decision date makes me think Houston has less of a shot than many experts think, cause June 15 is about the end of school and he could then take his kids with him for a nice relaxing summer in say...New England.
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Fuckin' Brewers.
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Clemens says he'll make a decision by june 15th.

WTF?

I think if he's making everyone wait on his decision, I think he will return.
I think so too.
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what are we going to do w/ Cliff Floyd......I say put him back in the 2 hole again for a week to get more fastballs etc.....If that doesn't work, I hve no issues w/ Willie dropping him to 7th.

Question: Would any of you tell Carlos Delgado to lay down a bunt on the 3rd baseline occasionally? They put on the shift when he bats and the 3rd basemen plays a deep shortstop position (and shaded towards 2b).

I would - OCCASIONALLY....depending on the game situation
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what are we going to do w/ Cliff Floyd......I say put him back in the 2 hole again for a week to get more fastballs etc.....If that doesn't work, I hve no issues w/ Willie dropping him to 7th.

Question: Would any of you tell Carlos Delgado to lay down a bunt on the 3rd baseline occasionally? They put on the shift when he bats and the 3rd basemen plays a deep shortstop position (and shaded towards 2b).

I would - OCCASIONALLY....depending on the game situation

cliff is having a very strange season... he's not striking out at all, he's making contact, it just seems that everytime he makes contact he hits it right at someone.

he'll bounce back... he'll finish the season hitting around .250 with 20 homers


as for the delgado question... absolutely. i think every one of these big pull hitters... delgado, ortiz, bonds, giambi... whom they put the shift on should keep laying bunts down the third base line until they stop shifting... i can't fucking stand the shift... we're not talking about ted williams here... play regular defense.
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Ortiz has bunted against the shift a couple of times.

If I'm an opposing manager and I get David Ortiz, Carlos Delgado or Barry Bonds to bunt rather than deposting a baseball on the moon, I'm happy.
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Exactly, I don't like effectively taking the bat out of Ortiz's hands -especially since that's really the only thing the Sox pay him to do. Small ball and Ortiz aren't two things that go well together. I think exceptions can be made though. Down by 2, go ahead and bunt your way on and let Manny go for the moonshot.
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