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Old 02-06-2005, 07:05 PM   #16
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it's on my want to see list, second only to hotel rwanda.
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Went to see it last night. Hilary Swank is outstanding. I loved this movie.
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Swank deserves best actress

but I do not think this is Eastwood's best picture.
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The ad says the movie "wraps itself around your soul and doesn't let go"

I've never seen a hint of the demonic possession plotline in the ads.....







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Old 02-07-2005, 05:53 PM   #20
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did you see the movie?

there are some dark parts and some scenes in a church

this film has caused controversy

you could say it has an agenda
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Old 02-07-2005, 06:33 PM   #21
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did you see the movie?

there are some dark parts and some scenes in a church

this film has caused controversy

you could say it has an agenda
I'm not sure it has an agenda. Don't give anything away, but I think it has to do more with a personal choice. Not sure if it advocates anything one way or another.

I hope no one responds to this in a way that gives anything away. Dammit people, go see the movie, so I can talk freely.
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I can see why it's controversial.

To me, the choice that is made is reflective of a person who has come to the point in their life where they have found what they've been looking for, and now they're forced with having to let it go. And the inner battle between what you want and what the person you love wants. And the grace and dignity in which you go about making that choice.

I wish we could talk spoilers. There's such a good line Clint speaks in the church that's in the theatrical trailer anyway, but I don't want to use it here if it will spoil it for people.
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I can see why it's controversial.

To me, the choice that is made is reflective of a person who has come to the point in their life where they have found what they've been looking for, and now they're forced with having to let it go. And the inner battle between what you want and what the person you love wants. And the grace and dignity in which you go about making that choice.

I wish we could talk spoilers. There's such a good line Clint speaks in the church that's in the theatrical trailer anyway, but I don't want to use it here if it will spoil it for people.
Very good summary. That is exactly why there does not seem to be an agenda, it was too situational and personal for the characters.
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did you see the movie?

there are some dark parts and some scenes in a church

this film has caused controversy

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Tried to see it last night, but got called into the office.

Unfortunately, I am aware of the controversy in the film. I would have preferred to discover that part of the story during the movie, not as part of some headline.

I still plan on seeing it.
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the film has a mean tone toward trailer folk.

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I loved it, and I never saw it as having an "agenda". I thought it was all about what the Morgan Freeman character told Clint's character about what he did for her, and how so many people die w/ out that.

For me it's just a lovely story about what one person can do for someone else to change their life(and how that can change both lives) - that has nothing to do w/ what happens at the end.
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Old 02-08-2005, 10:29 AM   #27
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It never occurred to me that the ending was controversial until weeks after I saw it. Even then, I had to read about it to realise that some people would take issue with it.

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Also I think it says at the end it was based on a book or a short story. So I assume if that's the case, the story just followed that.
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I just saw this the other night and had to comment.

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That is exactly why there does not seem to be an agenda, it was too situational and personal for the characters.
I agree with you bsp77. I think the choice that Clint's character makes is his way of redeeming himself for his 'sins' of the past. There's more I could say, but not without giving too much away.
Everyone must see this movie!
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My reaction was kinda mixed. Outstanding acting from the leads, some very powerful scenes, but did anyone else find that some of the supporting characters might as well have had "I'M EEEEVIL" signs stuck on them? And a few little things about the story and the way it was presented felt contrived. I usually overlook these when a film doesn't pretend to be anything but a Hollywood concoction, but when it obviously goes for "real & gritty" they just stick out.
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