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Old 01-30-2003, 01:58 AM   #31
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What's all this "my butcher friend" stuff? I've never met you before in my life. Don't worry: I'm not going to kill you. What do you take me for? a raving lunatic? nah, that would be the the job of a wes craven cahracter. i was fortunate enough to be in a Scorsese film, therefore giving me some kind of ethics...however warped they might be.

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On another note, you can watch Zwan perform live over on David Letterman's website.
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Well...as much as I bitched and moaned about pre-ordering Zwan and it not arriving until atleast monday...well well...I was SO wrong....I got it on Friday!!!!
I listened to the album about 3 or 4 times in a row tonight...and there are no words....just simply awesome...a real feel good album....just brilliant.
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So.....we picked up the album today

Anyone bother to look up the lyrics to the songs yet?

I think Billy Corgan has become a Christian, the song that most points to that is 'Jesus, I /Mary of the Sea', 'Ride A Black Swan' is also pretty obvious. In that frame of mind 'Lyric', 'Honestly', 'Declaration of Faith', 'Heartsong', and Endless Summer' would fit with becoming a Christian as well.

Plus this album is pretty different from any of the old Pumpkins stuff, not just in lyrics (think about "Eye", "Zero", "Bullet w/ Butterfly Wings) but just the whole tone of this album is so much more upbeat.

Lyrics are up at http://www.azlyrics.com/z/zwan.html

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"I think Billy Corgan has become a Christian".

I thought that was understood.
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Old 02-05-2003, 10:14 AM   #36
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Zwan.

I suggest you all pickup Zwan's debut album, Billy Corgans new band, Mary Star of the Sea which was released last week. I have never been a Smashing Pumpkins or BC fan at all, only liking the classics such as Today, Tonight, Tonight, Ava Adore, etc. I never owned any SP albums either. The other night, I made a "blind buy" of this Zwan album. I went to the beach and played it in my car... from the beggining I knew I had something special. I listened to the whole album from start to finish and was completley amazed at what an incredible album it turned out to be. Loud guitars, hooking melodies, continous drums - and to top it off - Corgan's best lyrics. Needless to say, I had never felt this way about an album before, only comparable to U2's ATYCLB. A lot of Zwan fans have mentioned that they are also big U2 fans and that's why I wanted to let this community know about the album.

Basically, there is not one weak song. The first single, "Honestly" is a great song - not the best of course - but great. The video is being played right now all over and the band got the #1 or #2 position on the charts, selling close to 100,000. Anyways, from the single, to the acoustic song to the 14-minute epic at the end, I reccomend this album to you. Give it a try.


From the video, "Honestly".
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"I think Billy Corgan has become a Christian".

I thought that was understood.
Sorry - has this come up somewhere else? Haven't done a whole lot of research on this, or read any stories about his transformation, just wondered if it was obvious to anyone else
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Old 02-05-2003, 10:39 AM   #38
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I'm really excited over this, I didn't know it was Billy Corgan's new group! I heard a rumor he grew some hair, any truth to that? He's been baldheaded so long now, I'd love to see him with some hair or at least a beanie! I will definately check this band out now I know it's him! Is James Iha there too?
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i just saw the new video last night.


i want this album now
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how could you NOT know it was his new band? that voice is quite unmistakenable...
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I just don't know what to think of this yet.
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Bonosloveslave, yeah there's been some stuff in the press and in pretty much every review talking about how a lot if not most of the songs are very religious in subject matter. Sadly, I've seen a lot of Smashing Pumpkins fans complaining about it and saying they hate it because of that.
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The pumpkins were my first favorite group...and really my introduction to rock n roll. I listened to them constantly throughout high school until the lyrics got too dark for me...and I got into u2 at the age of 19. Although the pumpkins weren't my favorite band anymore when they broke up...I'll always be fan of the music and Billy. I got the Zwan album yesterday and I've heard it 5-6 times....never thought I'd hear Billy sing "Honestly, I believe in love but its an awesome listen and its cool to hear Billy sing thing I can identify with again
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I'm seeing Zwan in NYC on 3/28! It will be great.
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I'm seeing Zwan in NY as well, plan to be there very early.
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