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Old 06-22-2006, 11:10 AM   #76
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Gettysburg by Newt Gingrich & Wm. Forstchen. It is a historical fiction about what if the South won this battle.
Also, if you enjoy the movie 'Gettysburg', read Killer Angels by Michael Shara (sp?). The book is basically the script for the movie. I'm not a civil war buff, but I've always loved both.
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Eragon

Anyone read this book?
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"Atlanta Review Istanbul and beyond...Turkish Poetry, Spring/Summer 2006"....{page 44}. Bought it the other day at the book store.

I have to go to the bookstore and get this.
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So I went to the bookstore last night with the intention of buying Erargon (or whatever), but I just couldn't do it after reading the first 2 chapters.

Now, I understand that the kid was just 17 when he wrote it, but really .... did he not have an editor? His use of adjectives drove me nuts!

Does anyone have his address? I have a few collections from Hemmingway, Steinbeck, and Borges I would like to send him.

For all young writers: remember the English language has a vast vocabulary. Don't settle for common adjectives without looking to see if their is a more descriptive noun that you can use.

On a side note, I started rereading East of Eden last night...
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Meaning you don't like "East of Eden" or you do like sappy adjectives?
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meaning your whole post was just ridiculous.
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meaning your whole post was just ridiculous.

Oh, do explain....
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Oh, do explain....
you know what happens when you give kids hemingway? they grow up hating to read. but give them something that will spark their imaginations (even if it isn't a thousand feet deep) and they may develop a passion for reading that will stay with them for the rest of their lives. none of this generations new classics are on the same level as some of the authors you listed (the eragons, the potters, the sisterhoods) but kids ARE reading them and that's what matters.

just the fact alone that you're comparing young adult literature to adult masters of the written word (hemingway, steinbeck, etc) is ridiculous. it's apples and oranges. it's like saying " that disney film wasn't any good because it wasn't directed by roman polanski." you aren't even the targeted reader for this kind of book.

but does that make it as bad as your post suggests? of course not.
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you know what happens when you give kids hemingway? they grow up hating to read. but give them something that will spark their imaginations (even if it isn't a thousand feet deep) and they may develop a passion for reading that will stay with them for the rest of their lives. none of this generations new classics are on the same level as some of the authors you listed (the eragons, the potters, the sisterhoods) but kids ARE reading them and that's what matters.

just the fact alone that you're comparing young adult literature to adult masters of the written word (hemingway, steinbeck, etc) is ridiculous. it's apples and oranges. it's like saying " that disney film wasn't any good because it wasn't directed by roman polanski." you aren't even the targeted reader for this kind of book.

but does that make it as bad as your post suggests? of course not.

A few points:

1. I never said that it was a bad book. I said that I couldn't read it.

2. I never said that I wanted kids to be reading Hemmingway, Steinbeck, or Borges. I said that this author should. Obviously, to have written this at the age of 17, he has the desire and talent to be a very good writer. IF that is the case, then someone (his editor should have done a much better job) should help him fulfill his potential. The fact of the matter is that, having worked in the publishing business, I don't think that this book would have been published had it been written by a 30 year old. Again, that doesn't mean that I don't think it shouldn't have been published; I think that the author should have had an editor who cared enough about the story and about the craft that he/she would have pushed the author farther.

3. I love both the Harry Potter and the Traveling Pants series. While not Hemmingway, Faulkner, Wolff, etc., they are very well written which I have discussed on these forums a number of times. I don't believe that children's authors should aspire to be the next Joyce. I think they should aspire to write AND craft amazing stories. And part of that crafting is learning how to manipulate words - even adjectives.

So, I was not being tongue in cheek when I wrote that I would like to send him those collections. I think he would profit greatly from reading and studying them. Do I hope that he begins to write like them? God no! Do I hope that they stretch him to value words more? Absolutely.

And I don't agree that our modern classics will never touch the hallowed few that we have put into the 'classics pantheon'.
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you should have used that as your original post.
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you should have used that as your original post.



My apologies....
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