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Old 11-19-2003, 02:57 PM   #16
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I remember last time we had this conversation, the thread ended up being closed because of fighting/bickering so just a little fyi lets debate in an adult manner.
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Why am I not shocked.
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Remember, "innocent until proven guilty". Granted, these are serious allegations. If he's indeed guilty of this stuff, he deserves to be punished. I think this is incredibly sad. This guy is so talented, why'd he have to become so fked up too, if indeed these charges are true?
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I remember last time we had this conversation, the thread ended up being closed because of fighting/bickering so just a little fyi lets debate in an adult manner.
Don't worry. I'm not saying anything this time!!
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okay this guy has always given me the "heebie geebies" and I always thought that he was guilty, I dont know why but I did. I just feel sorry for his family and for him bc he did it, It must be so horrible to see that as a headline in every newspaper and news station.
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in the what the fucking hell are both of you thinking news, michael jackson's new single, off his just released greatest hits album, titled "one more chance," was written by none other than r. kelly... who is up on 40+ counts of child pornography. ya just can't make this shit up people
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Apparently he has retained the guy who defended Winona's shoplifting and is currently defending scott peterson.
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in the what the fucking hell are both of you thinking news, michael jackson's new single, off his just released greatest hits album, titled "one more chance," was written by none other than r. kelly... who is up on 40+ counts of child pornography. ya just can't make this shit up people
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I can't believe I just saw MJ in handcuffs on CNN
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The media circus begins.
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The media circus begins.

You are so right about that Joyfulgirl.
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The media circus begins.
I think he made a circus of himself even before this His looks, all those zoo animals, the carnival

I can't believe this is the same little boy I listened to as a kid when he was in the Jackson 5. I can only hope for the best for everybody.
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I really think he's mentally ill. It's very disturbing.

I don't know about the allegations, although it seems really strange to me that he sleeps with children in his bed and that these sorts of things have been reported on and off for years. There is definitely cause for investigation there.

Now I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but really, am I the only one wondering why the hell parents are sending their children for sleepovers to his ranch and the like? What in God's name would possess any parent to do this, especially given his history. It is incomprehensible to me. No, if something happened, it is not their fault, the blame rests solely with the guilty party, but I would like to think that people would have a little bit more foresight about whose hands they leave their kids in. YMMV, of course.

I really do think he's mentally ill and in need of help. No person who is balanced does the sorts of things he has done for the last decade and a half. There is something going on in his head, that much I'm sure of.
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Well, the thing that struck me from that creepy special last year was that the kids look at Michael with total love in their eyes. Children who are abused do not look at their abusers like that. They have fear in their eyes, not love. I guess that's what the parents see.

He is not well, but is innocent until proven guilty, period.
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I really think he's mentally ill. It's very disturbing.

I don't know about the allegations, although it seems really strange to me that he sleeps with children in his bed and that these sorts of things have been reported on and off for years. There is definitely cause for investigation there.

Now I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but really, am I the only one wondering why the hell parents are sending their children for sleepovers to his ranch and the like? What in God's name would possess any parent to do this, especially given his history. It is incomprehensible to me. No, if something happened, it is not their fault, the blame rests solely with the guilty party, but I would like to think that people would have a little bit more foresight about whose hands they leave their kids in. YMMV, of course.

I really do think he's mentally ill and in need of help. No person who is balanced does the sorts of things he has done for the last decade and a half. There is something going on in his head, that much I'm sure of.


You simply do not leave your children alone with an unrelated adult male who buys them presents and shares a bed with them. It doesn't matter if its Michael Jackson or John Smith..it's wrong and irresponsible.

Whether these parents were simply blinded by the fact that it was superstar Michael Jackson paying attention to their kids or chose to overlook the warning signs because of the money and gifts he gave them, they share the blame IF anything did happen to their children while they were with MJ.
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