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Old 09-11-2005, 03:10 PM   #241
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You said "American R&B" and that was what I was arguing against.

Also, you are now talking solely about their 5th album to their 10th (? or however many albums INXS made). You didn't say that before.

INXS were based here in Perth back when they were the Farris brothers and the radio is quite obsessed with "our boys" (even though they belong to Sydney) . I have heard their songs from the start of their career to the end, seen them live, have the vinyl, etc, blah. Im not being flippant for arguments sake and I do disagree with you.
How can one talk "soley" about 6 albums spanning around 15 years?

As to "american" r&b.. sorry if that's offensive to you. That sound along with just blues and soul was invented, pioneered, and is most widely recognized as American. Again, it's just a fact.


I think anyone who comes from a favorite band's country of origin wants to claim them as their own. But I think when the band becomes an international phenomenon, as INXS did, as U2 did, as any number of American bands did, I think they give up their own national bias for the most part and take influences from all over the globe and belong equally to a global community of fans. So I don't see how it's shameful to look for band mates outside their origin country, or that it's wrong to admit to influences beyond national borders.

Lets say the next Rockstar is Van Halen. I won't care if the lead singer is from the US, Canada, or Yugoslavia. As long as the guy can sing. I don't mind admitting when American singers/bands take influences from The Beatles, Led Zeppellin, New Order or whoever because the bands they're taking from have taken from someone else. I've read once that there's nothing that's been done in the last 40 years that wasn't already done by Chuck Berry.

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Like how Joy Division became New Order

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Exactly

And they did a very good job of it too
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How can one talk "soley" about 6 albums spanning around 15 years?
Your comments are referring solely to the second half of their career. You are not including the first 5 albums in your remarks. Thats what I meant by "solely".

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As to "american" r&b.. sorry if that's offensive to you. That sound along with just blues and soul was invented, pioneered, and is most widely recognized as American. Again, it's just a fact.
Now you are misquoting me. I didnt say "american" r&b, I said "American R&B". Its not the "american" bit with which I disagree. INXS have a lot of soul influences and that comes from the USA.


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So I don't see how it's shameful to look for band mates outside their origin country,
Looking for band mates outside the country of origin is perfectly acceptable. Basing the entire search in a foreign country is another matter. It would be appropriate if some Aussies could participate too. Yes, I know it was the chioce of the remaining members of INXS to base their search in the USA and Im not happy with the remaining members of INXS for doing this. Not that they care what I think.

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or that it's wrong to admit to influences beyond national borders.
Im not saying that INXS dont have influences beyong national borders - they do. Theres a fair bit of Japanese influence in there too (The name of the style escapes me at the moment. Its to do with the rhythm. This is going to annoy me all day). Its solely the reference to "American R & B" to which Im objecting. Nothing more, nothing less.
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snowlock do you have any idea of the context INXS emerged in, in australian music?
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I just watched the reality episode and for the first time throughout this show I don't have a good feeling for Mig
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snowlock do you have any idea of the context INXS emerged in, in australian music?
i guess I don't and most of the people that bought their records or listened to their muisic do not


as I said INXS is/ was a rock band FROM Australia to most of us here


trash MIdnight Oil all you want

but they were percieved as an Australian band.



I really do understand all the bitterness to these five guys

trying to get a second shot
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I just watched the reality episode and for the first time throughout this show I don't have a good feeling for Mig

sorry, if he was one of your favorites


they did say he looks like a rockstar.


who do you think the top two are now?
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bauhaus...love and rockets

nirvana...foo fighters

jane's addiction...porno for pyros


it can and SHOULD be done.

i can't watch this show because it physically hurts me.
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Based on last night's VH1 show, it looks like the band is trying to choose between Marty and JD.
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sorry, if he was one of your favorites


they did say he looks like a rockstar.


who do you think the top two are now?

He still is my favorite However, Marty is great just not for INXS!
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Based on last night's VH1 show, it looks like the band is trying to choose between Marty and JD.

Unless they are just screwing with us, which is possible-
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snowlock do you have any idea of the context INXS emerged in, in australian music?
The context? I guess I don't. But that really doesn't matter to me (and I'm not saying I believe that it shouldn't matter to you). All I'm saying is it doesn't matter to me where a band is from, or on a personal level what they do with their careers. As long as the music is good I'm supportive.
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Your comments are referring solely to the second half of their career. You are not including the first 5 albums in your remarks. Thats what I meant by "solely".
That's not the second half of their career though, it's over three quarters of their career.

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Now you are misquoting me. I didnt say "american" r&b, I said "American R&B". Its not the "american" bit with which I disagree. INXS have a lot of soul influences and that comes from the USA.
So you are just disagreeing with R&B in general?

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Looking for band mates outside the country of origin is perfectly acceptable. Basing the entire search in a foreign country is another matter. It would be appropriate if some Aussies could participate too. Yes, I know it was the chioce of the remaining members of INXS to base their search in the USA and Im not happy with the remaining members of INXS for doing this. Not that they care what I think.
Isn't MiG an Aussie? Plus, I would think that many Australian singers would feel as you and Angela do and wouldn't want to participate. And again, I just don't see what the problem is with having different band members from different parts of the world as long as the music is still good.
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Ok!
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Midnight oil were loud and trashy. I detest them muchly. Midnight Oil sound like a bad USA heavy metal band to me.
You know what I'm going to say.



I can handle you second sentance. But getting past the first set of albums (up to 10,9,8.....1) - where did they sound loud & trashy?

Live they sounded anything but and on record I really can't put my finger on where that kind of comment could come from? If any recordings sounded "loud and trashy" it would usually come from the production side of things anyway - which is an element that The Oils & INXS had in common... Nick Lunay.

For what its worth Rob Hirst & Jim Moginie are regarded in most circles as musical geniuses, and PG may well be one of the brightest political minds in the country.

That being said... I completely agree with you analysis on why this TV program is a bad idea.
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