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Old 06-08-2007, 07:33 PM   #346
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http://www2.oprah.com/tows/slide/200..._284_101.jhtml
Oh god. I couldn't read the rest of that. That's just too much.

The whole thing with Paris and what happened today was completely out of control. The media went batshit crazy for this stupid heiress.
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Old 06-08-2007, 07:35 PM   #347
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those who get a second alcohol driving offense should be given the choice of going to jail or going to rehab. do it once, it can be a mistake. do it again after being caught and it's a major sign that you are an alcoholic and have no control over your actions when you drink and probably should stop drinking immediately. perhaps jail time & rehab... but without addressing the problem, the jail time is more or less useless.
I'm down with this. Isn't this what already happens for underage drinking? Not jail, but my bro got caught at a party and he was underage, so he had the choice of paying huge fines or going to this kiddy AA kinda class for a few weeks (either way your license was also suspended). He went to the class and just had to pay the smaller court fee. I really have no sympathy for DUIs though, especially for people like Paris that obviously have plenty of friends or chauffeurs that could drive her home.
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What Bonochick said.

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So this Sheriff Baca guy is a scientologist.

Also, Paris' grandpa donated $1,000 to his campaign last year.

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Old 06-08-2007, 07:54 PM   #350
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This happened right near my house, awful

My friend is the Flynns friend does that make any kind of sense. To support her friend she sat in the court room everyday.
I couldn't begin to fathom the experience and pray I never will.
The parents should be given a medal just for functioning.

Maybe they should let Paris watch that interview.
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It really isn't the DUI so much that bothers me, though don't get me wrong DUI is serious but I do understand the limit she was at when she was arrested for that was right at the line, what gets my goat is she was REPEATEDLY stopped for various reasons while driving with a suspended liscense and she doesn't see why this got her into this whole mess.
Because not only is she a spoiled brat.....shes stupid to boot!
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I'm down with this. Isn't this what already happens for underage drinking? Not jail, but my bro got caught at a party and he was underage, so he had the choice of paying huge fines or going to this kiddy AA kinda class for a few weeks (either way your license was also suspended). He went to the class and just had to pay the smaller court fee.
It's not just underage. All DUI's, in most states, are forced to go to AA meetings and counseling classes- the latter at their own expense, which can be heavy, for about a year. This starting with the first offense, and in addition to thousands of dollars in fines and the temporary loss of license. Failure to comply with ALL conditions will result in jail time. It doesn't seem to stop anybody though, most repeat offend. Why? Because everyone thinks they can hold their liquor, and are too cool to get caught. I don't think anyone goes "duh I'm gonna go drive drunk now." They really think they can do it, and nothing can convince them they're wrong until they end up like Paris.
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http://www2.oprah.com/tows/slide/200..._284_101.jhtml

Ok, no. I could not read that whole thing. I made it through the whole DUI story, but that next one . . . no.


Wow. That REALLY makes me stop and think. I only ever once drove as drunk as the guy in that story. I was 19, and I fully realized after I made it home without incident that I had been blessed that night. And realizing how absolutely lucky I had been, I swore I'd never drive drunk like that again, and over 13 years later and I've never been that drunk and gotten behind the wheel again.

Wow. How stupid we can be. After that story, I think I'm done with even casual, 1-2 drinks and then driving home.
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My friend is the Flynns friend does that make any kind of sense. To support her friend she sat in the court room everyday.
I couldn't begin to fathom the experience and pray I never will.
The parents should be given a medal just for functioning.

Maybe they should let Paris watch that interview.

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Because not only is she a spoiled brat.....shes stupid to boot!

I am not arguing with you there!
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I did, and it was the toughest thing I've ever had to watch on tv. I forced myself to watch, and I was an emotional wreck. Everyone should be required to watch that show in driver's ed. How anyone could watch that and ever get behind the wheel after even one drink would be beyond my comprehension.

http://www2.oprah.com/tows/slide/200..._284_101.jhtml
Like One4U2, I live on Long Island, so I heard of this story when it happened. There are no words to express how heartbreaking it is.

There was another horrible accident on Long Island years ago in which a groom and his best man were killed and the bride was horribly injured (she eventually died) on the way to their wedding reception because some jackass plowed into their limo.

A car can be a weapon, and that must never be forgotten every time any of us gets behind the wheel.
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im sorry i dont see how that story relates to paris hilton. there is a bit of a difference between a .08 (which is bascially 2 glasses of wine with dinner) and having 14 freaking drinks before driving.

its like comparing someone who is driving 60 in a 55 to someone who is driving 120 in a 55. yeah theyre both speeding, but there is a bit of a difference.
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The difference between the Blood Alcohol Levels is the only difference here.

The impairment is the same. Alcohol is a central nervous system depressant- it slows down the body's functions and its effects are similar to those of a general anaesthetic.

It affects almost every cell, every organ, and every level of human functioning. The most profound early effect is on the central nervous system, where it acts as a sedative, producing relaxation and sense of well-being. It impairs the intellect, impairs vision, distorts hearing and speech, impairs judgement, dull's the body's senses, disturbs motor skills, and reduces co-ordination.

The analogy between the speeding does not work either.........because if a child was to run out onto the road suddenly and you are travelling at 60 when you are supposed to be travelling at 55, you are STILL not going to break in time are you? You would still hit the kid. As supposed to travelling at 120 in the 55 zone and absolutely wiping out the child completely.....the result is still the same........in both scenarios the child would be killed.
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You get in a car after drinking and you're impaired period, end of story. We all want to rationalize and justify, but that's the bottom line truth. You can argue all you want that it's not the same, but the blood alcohol level is the only difference.
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^Agreed. Alcohol affects each one of us differently. At . 08 someone might be able to function normally, while someone else might not be. The same goes with someone after 14 drinks (such as myself ) where I can drink a lot and not feel "drunk" while someone else might be nearly comatose.

This is why rigidly enforcing the 0.08 law is of such importance, in my opinion.
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