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Bonochick said:
On a sidenote...this is considered "breaking news" at CNN. I don't know if that's sad or funny. :shrug: :laugh: :sigh:
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This is what I'm talking about, how is this valid news in the grand scheme of things?

Someone said earlier they wanted her to go to jail because then we wouldn't have to hear about her.

Are you kidding me?

It's going to be non stop reports now from a bunch of idiots camped outside of the jail speaking to the janitor about her "daily routine" or one of her security guard’s cousins sisters uncles former roommate for their opinion...

When does it stop? Seriously...
 
I don't feel bad for her. The Sheriff went against the judge's orders and let her go home. Why would he do this if there wasn't some type of bribe involved? Paris tried to use her money and fame to get released and it almost worked. She should have just served her time and been done with it. I think she got what she deserves.
 
ultravioletluvv said:
I don't feel bad for her. The Sheriff went against the judge's orders and let her go home. Why would he do this if there wasn't some type of bribe involved? Paris tried to use her money and fame to get released and it almost worked. She should have just served her time and been done with it. I think she got what she deserves.
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Right. I feel like there had to be some sort of favor involved with the Sheriff. What that was, who knows.
 
Dalton said:
I don't like the woman, but why should she be held responsible for the sheriffs mistake?
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Yeah, I think it's bad enough that they've jerked her around, like I said, but if they really have bumped her sentence back up because of this, I don't understand that. What was she supposed to do when she was told she could leave? :shrug:

Kind of curious, for anybody who knows...how common is this sort of thing, someone being let out of jail early and having it be challenged, resulting in the person having to return?
 
Dalton said:
I don't like the woman, but why should she be held responsible for the sheriffs mistake?
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I seriously doubt this was a "mistake" made by the Sheriff. This is the same Sheriff who went easy on Mel Gibson because he gave to one of the Sheriff's funds. Nobody knows for sure if in this case he was bribed by the Hilton's, but he had to be motivated by something pretty major to go against the judge's orders. I'm sure it wasn't out of the kindness of his heart.
 
ultravioletluvv said:
I don't feel bad for her. The Sheriff went against the judge's orders and let her go home. Why would he do this if there wasn't some type of bribe involved?
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Ultravioletluvv, others here may thrash you for your mindless speculation, but I for one support you.

I make snap judgments all the time. :|
 
I am not sure why anyone is assuming that her sentence got bumped back up to 45 days. The judge said she had to serve out the remainder, and did not specifically say 45 days, so it very well could be the 23 days she got.
 
If there was a bribe or something involved, my sympathy for her would most likely diminish significantly. However, we don't know that for sure, so I'm still sticking with my opinion.
 
Bonochick said:

Yeah, I think it's bad enough that they've jerked her around, like I said, but if they really have bumped her sentence back up because of this, I don't understand that. What was she supposed to do when she was told she could leave? :shrug:

Kind of curious, for anybody who knows...how common is this sort of thing, someone being let out of jail early and having it be challenged, resulting in the person having to return?
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I don't think it's something that happens. This has turned into a pissing contest. The tail wagging the dog. The media has the public stirred into a frenzy over a non story and politicians are trying to placate their constituents. It's embarrassing.

Under statute the sheriff is allowed to house criminals under his jurisdiction in any way he sees fit. It is NORMAL for someone to serve only 10 % of their sentence in LA county. If they'd released her without the bracelet and said that maybe people would just realize it's standard operating procedure and if we want that changed we need to put more money into prisons. I talked to an attorney last night that goes in front of Sauer regularly and he is a tough judge and he wouldn't want to be quoted speaking about this case knowing he'd have to go in front of him again.

By the way, same court. His client black, middle class family man. 2nd DUI high breathalyzer still on probation when he got the 2nd which caused an accident. Got the 45 day sentence of which he will only serve 10% no house arrest because he also got his license back so he could return to work.

Does no one care about George Michael getting no jail time with his history and latest DUI?
 
anitram said:
I am not sure why anyone is assuming that her sentence got bumped back up to 45 days. The judge said she had to serve out the remainder, and did not specifically say 45 days, so it very well could be the 23 days she got.
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So this article is misleading:

"Paris Hilton was taken from a courtroom screaming and crying Friday seconds after a judge ordered her returned to jail to serve out her entire 45-day sentence for a parole violation in a reckless driving case."
 
it's kinda sad and pathetic that people are having a good time laughing at her crying as she's taken away.

she's being railroaded, no doubt. the judge is making an example of her. regular old schmucks get less of a penalty than she's gotten, and it's within the sheriff's right to send her home.

this judge is a bigger toolbox than she is.
 
redkat said:


I don't think it's something that happens. This has turned into a pissing contest. The tail wagging the dog. The media has the public stirred into a frenzy over a non story and politicians are trying to placate their constituents. It's embarrassing.

Under statute the sheriff is allowed to house criminals under his jurisdiction in any way he sees fit. It is NORMAL for someone to serve only 10 % of their sentence in LA county. If they'd released her without the bracelet and said that maybe people would just realize it's standard operating procedure and if we want that changed we need to put more money into prisons. I talked to an attorney last night that goes in front of Sauer regularly and he is a tough judge and he wouldn't want to be quoted speaking about this case knowing he'd have to go in front of him again.

By the way, same court. His client black, middle class family man. 2nd DUI high breathalyzer still on probation when he got the 2nd which caused an accident. Got the 45 day sentence of which he will only serve 10% no house arrest because he also got his license back so he could return to work.

Does no one care about George Michael getting no jail time with his history and latest DUI?
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exactly... there was no celebrity justice involved her, she was simply getting what most people get. now she's getting much worse. hooray... let's all point and laugh at the poor celebrity as she gets taken off to jail for longer than you or i ever would be.
 
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Screaming and crying, Paris Hilton was escorted out of a courtroom and back to jail Friday after a judge ruled that she must serve out her entire 45-day sentence behind bars rather than in her Hollywood Hills home.

"It's not right!" shouted the weeping Hilton, who violated her probation in a reckless driving case. "Mom!" she called out to her mother in the audience.

Hilton, who was brought to court in handcuffs in a sheriff's car, came into the courtroom disheveled and weeping, hair askew, sans makeup, wearing a gray fuzzy sweatshirt over slacks.

She cried throughout the hearing, her body shook constantly and she dabbed at her eyes. Several times she turned to her parents, seated behind her in the courtroom, and mouthed, "I love you."

Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer was calm but apparently irked by the morning's developments. He said he had left the courthouse Thursday night having signed an order for Hilton to appear for the hearing. (Timeline: The Hilton case )

When he got in his car early Friday, he said, he heard a radio report that he had approved Hilton's participation in the hearing by telephone, but he had not.

"I at no time condoned the actions of the sheriff and at no time told him I approved the actions," he said of the decision to release Hilton from jail after three days.

"At no time did I approve the defendant being released from custody to her home on Kings Road," Sauer said.

Assistant City Attorney Dan F. Jeffries argued that Hilton should be returned to jail, and said that was purely the judge's decision to make. "Her release after only three days erodes confidence in the judicial system," Jeffries said.

Hilton's attorney, Richard Hutton, implored the judge to order a hearing in his chambers at which he would hear testimony about Hilton's medical condition before making a decision.

The judge did not respond to that suggestion. (Watch the details of Hilton's release )

Another of her attorneys, Steve Levine, said, "The sheriff has determined that because of her medical situation, this (jail) is a dangerous place for her."

"The court's role here is to let the Sheriff's Department run the jail," he said.

A former district attorney, Robert Philibosian, also represented Hilton. He said that the law supports the sheriff in making an independent decision on her custodial situation.

The judge interrupted several times to say that he had received a call last Wednesday from an undersheriff informing him that Hilton had a medical condition and that he would submit papers to the judge to consider. He said the papers never arrived.

Every few minutes, the judge would interrupt proceedings and state the time on the clock and note that the papers still had not arrived.

He also noted that he had heard that a private psychiatrist visited Hilton in jail and he wondered if that person played a role in deciding her medical needs.

The frenzy over Hilton's jail status began early Thursday when sheriff's officials released Hilton because of an undisclosed medical condition and sent her home under house arrest. She had been in jail since late Sunday. (Watch Hilton enter jail )

Hilton was fitted with an electronic monitoring ankle bracelet and was expected to finish her 45-day sentence for a reckless driving probation violation at her four-bedroom, three-bath home.

The decision by Sheriff Lee Baca to move Hilton chafed prosecutors and Judge Sauer, who spelled out during sentencing that Hilton was not allowed to serve house detention.

California Attorney General Jerry Brown criticized the Sheriff's Department for letting Hilton out of jail, saying he believed she should serve out her sentence.

"It does hold up the system to ridicule when the powerful and the famous get special treatment," Brown told The Associated Press in an interview before testifying at a congressional hearing in Washington.

"I'm sure there's a lot of people who've seen their family members go to jail and have various ailments, physical and psychological, that didn't get them released," he said. "I'd say it's time for a course correction."

The Los Angeles County jail system is so overcrowded that attorneys and jail officials have said it is not unusual for nonviolent offenders like Hilton to be released after serving as little as 10 percent of their sentences.

Hilton's path to jail began September 7, when she failed a sobriety test after police saw her weaving down a street in her Mercedes-Benz on what she said was a late-night run to a hamburger stand.

She pleaded no contest to reckless driving and was sentenced to 36 months' probation, alcohol education and $1,500 in fines.

In the months that followed she was stopped twice by officers who discovered her driving on a suspended license. The second stop landed her in Sauer's courtroom, where he sentenced her to jail.
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Source: CNN : http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/08/paris.hilton.ap/index.html

god.. you think she was being put to death or something...
 
U2democrat said:
It was originally 45, then it was cut down to 23, so I guess after this whole saga they put it back to 45.
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I think it's that you normally get a credit of 1 day for good behavior for every day you serve without a problem. She was always serving her 45 day sentence but would have gotten out in 23 days with all of the credit.

I doubt she'll have to serve the whole 45 days.

Honestly, I think a lot of times it comes down to the judge you get. Some judges are harsher than others and it's the luck of the draw who gets your case.

A friend of mind got a ticket for driving without insurance. He got the insurance but didn't pay the ticket and then failed to appear in court. He had a warrant issued and was given 90 days in jail and ended up serving the entire 45 days in LA County jail, which according to him is literally a hell hole. I think the judge was kind of harsh in his case.

I don't wish jail on anyone. I realize if you're a criminal that's where you belong, but I'm not convinced in this case justice has been served, seven days would probably have gotten the point across to her. In fact, probably the 3 days she service got the point across fine.
 
Sure it's sad to see that photo, and I do feel sorry for her. But bottom line is she had a DUI. Step 1. Then she drove twice on a suspended license, and rather than take responsibility for that she blamed Elliot Mintz claiming he told her she could drive and fired him (or he "quit", whatever the reality is) then hired him back. She is not a child, she's what 25 or more? Time to take responsibility for her own behavior. The way her mother acted in the courtroom during the hearing and sentencing speaks volumes about how her family is complicit in Paris having the attitude she does. And it's a good idea not to insult and piss off the court. The judge must have been within the sentencing guidelines or it wouldn't have been allowed, right?

The law and the public still don't take DUI seriously and this is just one example. I wonder if she has ever even thought about DUI and how serious it actually is. If she was serious about doing her time and learning from it she should have done that in spite of how tough it was. I saw a woman on ABC News last night who had a paraplegic son with serious medical problems who admitted to pot possession-he died in jail. They didn't let him out. What exactly are the standards for being let out? Why Paris? What about the other women there who committed similar offenses?

The sheriff at that jail screwed up (let's face it, they knew what the reaction would be), and to now claim it was overcrowding-come on. The system in CA is a nationwide joke, but Paris needs to take a good hard look at herself too and face reality.
 
MrsSpringsteen said:
The law and the public still don't take DUI seriously and this is just one example. I wonder if she has ever even thought about DUI and how serious it actually is. If she was serious about doing her time and learning from it she should have done that in spite of how tough it was. I saw a woman on ABC News last night who had a paraplegic son with serious medical problems who admitted to pot possession-he died in jail. They didn't let him out. What exactly are the standards for being let out? Why Paris? What about the other women there who committed similar offenses?
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Thank you. I agree with you 100%, DUI is not looked at very seriously.

Slightly off topic: Did anyone see that Oprah episode the other day with the family who was hit head on by a drunk driver who was going the wrong way?

The wife sat on the side of the road with her daughter's decapitated head in her lap and watched the Emergency workers cut her family out of the wreckage.

At the end of the day, DUI is some serious shit and should be treated as such.
 
elevated_u2_fan said:

Slightly off topic: Did anyone see that Oprah episode the other day with the family who was hit head on by a drunk driver who was going the wrong way?

The wife sat on the side of the road with her daughter's decapitated head in her lap and watched the Emergency workers cut her family out of the wreckage.
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I did, and it was the toughest thing I've ever had to watch on tv. I forced myself to watch, and I was an emotional wreck. Everyone should be required to watch that show in driver's ed. How anyone could watch that and ever get behind the wheel after even one drink would be beyond my comprehension.

http://www2.oprah.com/tows/slide/200706/20070601/slide_20070601_284_101.jhtml
 
DUI laws are a joke because that's how the public views DUIs. Meanwhile death in car accidents is the #1 cause of death of young people. In Canada, drunk drivers are responsible for almost twice as many deaths per year as all homicides combined. This is unacceptable but the public thinks it's fair to slap drunk drivers on the wrist. Why people with repeated DUIs still have licenses is beyond me.

Nobody cares until a drunk drivers takes out a minivan and kills a family. The alcohol lobby is as disgusting as the tobacco lobby; the only difference between them is that there have not yet been class action lawsuits against the alcohol industry. But they are coming; perhaps then we will get some common sense laws and actual DUI enforcement.
 
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