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Old 04-26-2008, 05:56 PM   #676
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Well, he did go all Sayid
as Locke has done, too.


these characters are really getting blurred

it is starting to make me wonder if they are all real
or if it is just sloppy writing
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Old 04-26-2008, 06:05 PM   #677
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as Locke has done, too.


these characters are really getting blurred

it is starting to make me wonder if they are all real
or if it is just sloppy writing
Again, my memory may be failing me, but I can't recall a scene where Locke has used the kind of wit and rapid-fire physical movement to best an opponent the way that Sayid has done (snapping a neck with his feet will remain for quite some time as the textbook definition of badassery, IMO) and the way that Ben did in the desert scene. Shooting and throwing knives just does not measure up.
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I've killed people with my bare hands as well as with knives and guns, and you're right, it's a world of difference.


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Again, my memory may be failing me,
with Lost

it is not your or my memory that is the issue

it seems this is just a dream inside a coma in some schizo-maniac's mind
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:47 PM   #680
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Yeah, well, even though it makes people laugh at me, I still stand by my suspicion that the viewers are actually "writing" the show.

Even more now since reading an article in USA Today last week about how the producers recently "sat down to evaluate" nearly 150 theory essays submitted by fans.
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:55 PM   #681
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I do enjoy this show and have not missed any episodes, but find myself still scratching my head a lot...which is OK, but, when Ben unleashed that damn smoke bullshit I found myself groaning and rolling my eyes...I mean, please Also, after all the Claire speculation, did anyone else think she was going to bite it during the shootout this week? if she is going to die, they aren't going to make it that obvious I guess
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Well like it or not, the smoke monster has been a part of the show since the beginning. As lame as it may have been to see Ben unleash it, it would have been lamer to never address it again.

I don't think Claire's going to bite it until the finale. And it wouldn't surprise me if Sawyer makes out with her first. I mean, isn't that what happened with Ana Lucia? They boned, she croaked.
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My Current Theory -

Widmore was the captain of the Blackrock. He is immortal like anyone who has left the island. This is why Ben cannot kill him, just as Michael could not kill himself.

The vile vortices - are the transportation mode Ben uses to get on and off the island. He cannot control where he is going, hense the snow on his boots and the cold breath steam coming out of his mouth when he arrives in the desert.

He set up Sayid to be his hitman, I do not believe Widmore killed Noor. He wanted to get Sayid (immortal?) to do his bidding.

When he realized the rule changed he used Smokey. I do not believe Smokey is supposed to be used at Ben's every whim. It seemed he suddenly made a conscious decision to use Smokey.

It raises the question with me, if he is in control of smokey, what was the primary function of smokey? Why didn;t smokey wipe out everyone outside the barrier? Why ECKO?????? LOL
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If no one who's been on the island can die off of it, that is a HUGE deal.

I like the theory, it's just such an absolute to work with.
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Yeah, well, even though it makes people laugh at me, I still stand by my suspicion that the viewers are actually "writing" the show.

Even more now since reading an article in USA Today last week about how the producers recently "sat down to evaluate" nearly 150 theory essays submitted by fans.
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If no one who's been on the island can die off of it, that is a HUGE deal.

I like the theory, it's just such an absolute to work with.

As an aside, I like your theories/views. Been meaning to give say that for months.

On the smoke though, do you (or anyone) remember Linus saying the smoke meant nothing much, when (I think) Locke or someone grilled him on what it was? I can't really recall a time when Ben has outright lied. He hedges a lot and hides heaps of things, but when he finally says something it's usually the truth, no??
I've still got to make some time to watch this episode you're all talking about, so bear with me being a bit irrelevant.
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Ben lied when he told Jack that he was born on the island.
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He also lied when he told his people that The Looking Glass station was inoperable.
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Ben lied when he told Jack that he was born on the island.
born-again ?
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:12 PM   #690
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Look at what happened when Jack tried to kill himself. The accident happened to keep him from dying.

Now - if this is true - who is inside of the coffin? It may not have been someone who was on the island? Arrrghhhhh
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