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Old 11-17-2005, 04:28 PM   #61
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I didn't participate in the U2.com one, so I don't really know specifics too much. I do think this system is terrible and doesn't do what it aims to, and that is get the tickets into the hands of real fans. Scalpers find their way around any system, there are a large amount of tickets already on brokers websites.

I think Coldplay's system is awful, but it might not be on the scale of the clusterfuck U2 presale.

I just really don't have any faith in this system, and I'd be saying that even if I was a beneficiary of it. I won the ellipse lottery and got to be on the rail right in front of Edge, but I still hate that system. So it's not because it doesn't work for me, it's because it doesn't do what it sets out to do.

Getting tickets into no ones hands but the fans' is a noble idea. This is a post from Coldplaying.com detailing Prince's presale method.

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Last year Prince had the highest grossing tour, playing over 90 shows, all at arenas/stadiums. And he managed presales through his website quite effectively.

Here is what he did:

1. First, he took ownership of the presale process himself. Which means he did not rely on record companies, ticketmaster, musictoday, concertmaps, or any other promotional company.

For earlier tours, he had used a password presale option through Ticketmaster. However, this proved unreliable for two main reasons: (1) passwords were getting traded, sold, and horded by scalpers; and (2) passwords did not guarantee that his fans were getting the best seats in the house, since Ticketmaster, promoters, record companies, venues, American Express and others would usually grab up the best seats before they are even in the pool for sale.

2. He charged a nominal membership fee which required each site member to sign up, associate their account with a name, address, and credit card.

The fee was a one-time $25 for lifetime membership. By linking each membership to one name, address, and credit card, it ensured that purchases were done by THAT member, and made it possible to enforce ticket purchasing limits and enforce will call pick up by the member.

Currently, Coldplay's site only requires you to enter an email address to log-in. What exactly does this ensure? Nothing. Anyone can have an email address. You can't even go into your user "profile" and change your email address if you need to.

3. His site sold presale tickets themselves in advance of any public sale or presale elsewhere. Here's how it worked:

- Before the sale of any show, his site would make a presale available.
- At the end of the presale, his site would PULL those tickets from the pool of general sale tickets, beginning with the BEST SEATS.
- AFTER the seats were pulled (marked as "Artist Comps") the rest were then made available to ticketmaster, promoters, others.
- All tickets could only be picked up by purchaser WILL CALL the night of the show, which severely limited scalping.

**The only caveat that upset some people was that you did not get your assigned seat the day you purchased your ticket. HOWEVER seats were assigned in the order of purchase (first come first serve) during the presale block.**

So it worked like this, for example. Let's say for Prince's NYC Madison Square Garden show, during the presale 500 tickets were bought. That means his site PULLED the first/best 500 seats from the arena BEFORE they were made available to anyone else. Fans that bought presale tickets were then assigned seats from that 500 block on a first come first serve basis, depending on when they bought their tickets during the presale.

And when I say FIRST / BEST seats, I mean starting from orchestra pit, row 1, seat 1 couting out 500 seats.
It's obvious that there are ways to do an effective presale. Coldplay's and U2's management obviously hasn't figured it out yet.

Sorry if I'm way off-base, I'm just really upset about this.
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Old 11-18-2005, 08:38 PM   #62
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Coldplay Tickets?

I was wondering how hard it is to get tickets to Coldplay shows. Like how early should I be at ticketmaster? I know with U2 I had to be there at like 8:30am, because there was a line.

Just wondering since I'm going to get them tommorow.
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Old 11-19-2005, 02:16 AM   #63
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Coldplay Denmark Bootleg

Denmark Oct.30 -2005

01.Square One:http://s37.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=2THXWORWNOCHY3UBBR0NNUKLDG
02.Politik:http://s37.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=2T8G9D3ULTFSF1IB7ZA3OTYJ9A
03.Yellow:http://s37.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=257ZO2QG1VQNC1G5QYON69H0SO
04.Speed Of Sound:http://s38.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=33ET353SRGI4X1DDZCO4V8Q7Z3
05.Daylight:http://s38.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=3UQ22M11H0MNP25MUC0S37885N
06.God Put A Smile Upon Your face:http://s38.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=1SM5Y92AQTM5X0G2II2AY7DTBQ
07.X&Y:http://s38.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=33PMCRJUW992L12WQRJL12KA8E
08.Amsterdam:http://s38.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LE0E84DY4QC821HAB2M1WFFLR
09.White Shadows:http://s38.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=2SV18SB98I2M21GZRTDMX7CAEM
10.The Scientist:http://s38.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=1FG5UY33NM2QK2ZEUEBHJ1GFNT
11.Til Kingdom Come:http://s39.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=0R1HL3BHTZ6YX0MGHBQJDHAJMR
12.Don`t Panic:http://s39.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=11F18CJF5L61P3QG9OIJ2WMLKF
13.Clocks:http://s39.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=1PZ41SF5ZUU2X3DX0OB89YQA2U
14.Talk:http://s39.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=22AO3EGB7OPKU1IKIR6VHDKRC7
15.Swallowed By The Sea:http://s39.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=0KOKGAQZ3Q6EI0CA1HENNJRG0O
16.In My Place:http://s39.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=1BZ6E4Z0BUEUV1Q8PY2C6VUIWN
17.Fix You:http://s39.you sendit.com/d.aspx?id=2BQLBKKR34X2Q253IPRFIXTUN9

A lovely gal told me it was a radiobroadcast,,, The sound is excellent.

Enjoy it Zooty I know how much you love Coldplay and especially Chris Martin
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I've had this boot for awhile and it is amazing. Great show, great sound. A particularly great Don't Panic, where Chris sings a verse (or maybe it's the chorus) of Depeche Mode's "Enjoy The Silence". Be sure to check out the new arrangement of Clocks, the ending breakdown is really great.

Daylight is a great live song and I was glad to see it injected into the set. They haven't been playing it an awful lot this tour and that's a shame. Square One, White Shadows, and Talk are monsters live, miles above the album versions.

Thanks, yimou. Thanks for bringing this boot to the masses
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This round of dates will be very hard, I believe.

I'm not optimistic at all.
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Cool.

The best part is that I don't have to worry about the links expiring before I can get them here.
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What's better than that is they aren't on Rapid-shit-share

I could only download two tracks an hour when I got the boot, and that was a major pain in the ass.
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That's definitely an area you don't want pain in.
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Many thanks!
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Cool.

The best part is that I don't have to worry about the links expiring before I can get them here.


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Yeah, I picked this up on Dime a while ago. Very nice recording.
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thanks, finally a good quality recording from this tour! I have Glastonbury on DVD but aside from that haven't found one. And, and, and, they're playing Amsterdam again! Bit of a rubbish place to squeeze it into a set but still, better than nothing!
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coldplay tix

well they just added an extra date for coldplay in toronto i got lucky section 117 side of stage. anyone else going. should be great!
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how the feck does coldplay get such good openers (fiona apple, richard ashcroft) when u2 gets such crap ones (kings of leon, dashboard confessional, and other atrocities)?
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