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Old 10-26-2005, 08:38 PM   #16
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A Chinese cast playing Japanese
she is very Chinese to me too and does not pass for Japanese

i have not read the book

but the previews make a big deal about her
blue eyes,
a dominant gene, so is her father European?
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Old 10-27-2005, 09:58 AM   #17
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In the book, both of her parents are native born Japanese. There's no explanation why her eyes are blue (actually, they're blue-gray)
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Old 10-27-2005, 10:39 PM   #18
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The trailer looks awesome!!! It was directed by Rob Marshall who did Chicago
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:11 PM   #19
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Anyone see it yet?
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:13 PM   #20
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Getting fairly bad reviews. Surprised about that
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:15 PM   #21
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I never read the book, I want to see the movie though..it looks beautiful

When I was in Bath And Body Works the other day they had a Memoirs Of A Geisha display w/makeup and perfume (it smelled pretty nice) designed to go along w/ the movie. Their new shopping bags are ads for the movie, they are pink and red w/ ribbons.

I don't think the movie is out in the states until Christmas.
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Old 12-09-2005, 03:48 PM   #22
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It probaby my favourite book, and I hate when they make films of them - it'll completely ruin my perspective. Damn.
The perfect example of this The Beach, another fantastic book, but the film was crap.

I'll go see it though
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This movie looks totally good and I am going to go see it in the theatre.
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Well I'm Japanese and I don't see any problem with Zhang Ziyi or Gong Li playing Japanese characters.

It's acting, yeah?

Oh and I do want to see this movie.
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I find Geisha's facinating. This is why I'd like to see the movie. I may read the book also.
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It does occur to me they have an all-Chinese cast (in the promo at least) playing Japanese characters. Which I guess is an assumption that the West can't tell the difference anyway.

The book is alright. As a personal story, I liked it a lot. As a commentary on Geisha life and Japanese society, it's mediocre at best.
Asian actors are interchangeable in Hollywood, shit, native people are played by asians in a bunch of films. Remember, we all look the same.

But on the other hand, Brits and Americans play Germans, Swedes and other ethnicities so it isn't just interchanging asian actors. At least we aren't having actors in blackface or thick glasses and buck-teeth ala Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's.
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My guess is that the producers or whoever made the decision were more concerned about getting actors that western audiences would know, rather than getting Japanese actors. It's often a question of "who will bring the people to the theater" rather than "who's the best fit for the part"? That's my take.

I'm looking forward to seeing it, despite the early reviews. I loved the book (although I remember being pissed off at the ending), and am a sucker for a big, epic flick.
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I've only seen the trailer, but this looks like it will be one of the most disturbingly Orientalist/Neo-Colonial films that's been released on such a grand scale in a long time. I absolutely cannot wait to watch it fall flat on its face at the box office. The book might be just fine (I admit openly that I've never read it), but even at a non-narrative level, it is so offensive that it turns my stomach. I booed openly when I saw the trailer screened before Capote, a few weeks back.

Thank you, Rob Marshall, from bringing presumptive racist leanings back to the mainstream! How I'd missed them...!

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If you want to read a better book about geishas in Gyon, get "Geisha, A Life." It's a much less editorialized story, as it's an autobiography, and leaves you with a better sense of what their daily life is like, the hierarchy of the geisha houses, the impact on their families and so on.
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and raging, i adoreth your signature. i have to ask, are you a pool fan, or do you just like the beer?

been a while since I read my own thread! I like the beer, not much into pool!!

Still havent seen the movie yet either, but looking forward to it.
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