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Old 05-24-2007, 02:44 AM   #391
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i'm not convinced that Charlie is dead. Desmond has a habit of not telling all re: his flashes, and that porthole is conceivably big enough for Charlie to swim through...
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i'm not convinced that Charlie is dead. Desmond has a habit of not telling all re: his flashes, and that porthole is conceivably big enough for Charlie to swim through...
Actually, I think Charlie's gone for good. One of the producers has confirmed it pretty solidly in a TVGuide interview:

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...vent/800015786
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:32 AM   #393
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Seriously, though...why didn't the dumb-assed junkie just swim out the porthole...? Fuckin' retarded.
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Oh My.
That was some finale.

At least now the VW bus episode has some real purpose...way to go Hugo.
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I'm going to have to get this season's dvd when it comes out - I missed most of the shows when they changed the time to 10 p.m. .

At least I have until January .
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Seriously, though...why didn't the dumb-assed junkie just swim out the porthole...? Fuckin' retarded.
Let's see water gushing in a porthole that's about 18" in diameter, that force would have to be tremendous, especially given the depth, even if you were some made up superhero like Aquaman you would have a hard time swimming out of that room! So I'd hold off on "retarded" labels.
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Personally, I'd have to say that the actual man of this episode was Sayid, who managed to knock a guy off his feet and snap his neck - with a gag in his mouth and his hands tied behind his back.



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Let's see water gushing in a porthole that's about 18" in diameter, that force would have to be tremendous, especially given the depth, even if you were some made up superhero like Aquaman you would have a hard time swimming out of that room! So I'd hold off on "retarded" labels.
But once the water level reached the top of the room, if he could hold his breath long enough, then he could get through...if he could fit.
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What a finale. I think I'm ready to come back to Lost now, after barely watching this season.
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This was explained in a Juliet episode a few weeks back. Women who conceive on the island end up mysteriously dying during their pregnancy, which is why the Others brought Juliet to the island. Since she was a fertility expert, they thought she could fix it, but she couldn't (but Ben still wouldn't let her leave).
This is also why the Others kidnapped everyone's kids and Claire and wanted Sun (and any other possible pregnant Losties). The revelation that women who get pregnant on the island die is significant, because for a while there was an uncertainty whether Sun got pregnant on the island by Jin, or whether she got pregnant before they left by the bald guy she was sleeping with, but it was revealed in Sun's episode, when Juliet did an ultrasound on her, that she got pregnant on the island (which was basically a death sentence for her).

Also, Ben is totally not Alex's father, that would be way too stupid. He just kidnapped her when he was a baby (just like the kidnapped the kids from the tail end of the plane etc.) and raised her as his own.
No no no no no. I'm not talking about being conceived on the island. I'm talking about being a parent back home. I was looking at Rose and Bernard and wondering if they had any kids (not as a couple, but on their own) and I couldn't recall any mention of it. Then I started thinking about everyone else and nobody really talks about immediate family back at home. (They're all mostly dead anyway )
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Rose and Bernard did not get together until later in life....i can't remember if Bernard had a 1st wife that died or some such thing...but I am sure they would not have had any children together...plus she was sick before arriving on the island....and once there...her sickness subsided....

one other thought about who was in the coffin....it seems as though i recall Jack driving into the community which had mainly black people around...and the funeral director was black.....could it have been a black charactor? I was trying to think who else on the island is black besides Rose...and Mr Echo?
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I was trying to think who else on the island is black besides Rose...and Mr Echo?
Michael and Walt.
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No no no no no. I'm not talking about being conceived on the island. I'm talking about being a parent back home.
Michael is a parent.

Also, Sawyer supposedly has a daughter named Clementine.
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Last nights episode was Fucking Masterful in every way. Hurley was so kick ass proving to Sawyer that he can help out the team. Maybe Juliet was in the Casket?
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I thought about Charlie swimming out the porthole as well, and really was willing him to do so. But instead he used the time to warn Desmond about the freighter and against a rescue from Penny. He died like a true hero.


...oooorrrrr he just wouldn't have fit through the porthole and would have died anyway.
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