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Old 10-13-2004, 01:12 PM   #46
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Gary Bettman's gotta take some flak just for attempting to make the league grow too fast as well...he had a lot of people thinking the NHL really was going to make it big in a lot of markets.
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Old 10-13-2004, 01:41 PM   #47
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The regular season should have started today
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Old 10-14-2004, 12:23 AM   #48
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Hey, how come the biggest hockey discussion is in IO?
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Old 10-15-2004, 03:55 PM   #49
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The regular season should have started today


I'm having a very hard time dealing with this at the moment.
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Old 10-15-2004, 08:47 PM   #50
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I think it is time for a group
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Old 10-16-2004, 07:46 AM   #52
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Did any of you see Nike's "Bring it Back" commercial? It almost made me cry.
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Old 10-16-2004, 11:37 AM   #53
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Bring it back as in hockey....

Well that just fills me with glee to know that Nike will be making money during the lockout

Oh, but I digress

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FIRE GARY BETTMAN!!
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Old 10-16-2004, 03:48 PM   #55
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Solution is Luxury Tax

The solution would be to apply a salary cap with such a high tax ratio that it acts like a cap but not quite. I say

"Salary cap at 45 million with 80% tax for total player salaries above that. Tax revenue distributed amongst lower income teams."
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http://www.nike.com/canada/nikehockey/lockout/
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Re: Solution is Luxury Tax

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The solution would be to apply a salary cap with such a high tax ratio that it acts like a cap but not quite. I say

"Salary cap at 45 million with 80% tax for total player salaries above that. Tax revenue distributed amongst lower income teams."
that's not a cap... that's a luxary tax. it's the same system the NBA has. the best solution for the NHL would be a hard cap and revenue sharing system like the NFL has. if the NFL was under the system that the NHL or Major League Baseball uses, the Green Bay Packers would no longer exist. But they're able to exist in such a small market because of the revenue sharing.

However there-in lies the major problem with the NHL's CBA and thus why there won't be an agreement anytime soon... the NFL's system is the best system for the NHL, yet it'll never work. Oxymoronic yes... but true none the less. The reason the NFL's revenue sharing system works is because of the TV money they get. They get the TV money because there's only 16 games in an NFL season. Every game is an event. It's the nature of the sport. Even the casual football fan can sit down for 16 sundays and watch his/her team. Only the most insane diehard fans of the NHL could even come close to watching 82 games. And the casual fans don't even watch hockey anymore, because the neutral zone trap makes the sport boring for those who have merely a casual interest. If the TV ratings were there, a solution could be worked out that could work for both sides. But NHL ratings are the lowest they've ever been, and this is only going to make them lower.

As for the insinuation that playing a professional sport is not "work," well that's simply a load of bullshit. Just because the job is enjoyable doesn't mean it is not a job. They are athletes and they are entertainers. Acting is a job. Being a musician is a job. Playing a sport professionaly is also a job. The average athlete puts in their 40 hours of work durring the season, if you count practices, weight training, film work, PR, travel time, games and pre-game walk throughs, etc. etc. The average coach puts in even more than 40 hours a week. In the offseason they go home and have to continue to work out daily, otherwise they'll lose their job.

As for the oft used argument of "they get paid millions to play a game," well... yea... that's true. However... if you were a teacher, and the school you worked at made billions of dollars a year, and you were one of that school's top teachers, you'd be getting paid millions of dollars as well. Players make a lot of money because the business makes a lot of money... period. And the owners, on average, make a hell of a lot more money. Not all of them, of course... there's still the same heirarchy of haves vs. have nots in hockey that there is in major league baseball. but at least the yankees don't claim they're losing money, unlike the dispicable claim that Rangers owner Charles Dolan made. the rangers sell out madison square garden every night with the highest ticket prices in the league. lose money? my ass.
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Old 10-18-2004, 11:07 PM   #58
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If anyone is to read any post this year, it's the one just above mine.

Headache, once again... you've won the thread.

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Ok I don't like hockey. But as a baseball fan I certainly understand your pain. '94 almost ruined baseball. I hope it doesn't have the same affect on hockey.
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