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Old 05-07-2005, 07:15 PM   #16
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have you ever seen a DREAM THEATER video?

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PS: I can't listen to any songs from them, is just too much of everything... even Portnoy, but he still plays amazingly)
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No Jacke Required is not pop, its shmultz.
Right. You may wanna take a second listen to Long Long Way To Go, Inside Out and Take Me Home.
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Right. You may wanna take a second listen to Long Long Way To Go, Inside Out and Take Me Home.
I have heard the song Take Me Home. Dunno about the others. I may have blocked them from my mind.

Call it USA Pop if you like, but not Pop. (Yes, I know hes English) Its too shmultzy for Pop. So are all those horrible Disney songs. Its difficult to describe. I think you would need to come over here, outside USA, and look back inwards to hear that bland USA sound. I do like heck of a lot of USA music, just not that Celine Dion /Journey/ REO Speedwagon / Phil Collins kinda shmultz.

I don't doubt hes an excellent drummer. He just shouldn't be solo thats all.
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I actually saw Phil Collins live once....

It was a loooong time ago and a friend had tickets and no one to go with.
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I agree that Neil Peart is awesome, fantastic, and all that, but I'd still place Phil Collins over him. Phil has been around longer, is more influential, and his solos are so energized and off-the-wall that you never know what to expect!

Neil is more of a precise drummer, like a mathmatician. And that's a good thing. All the songs you mentioned are great, especially YYZ and New World Man. Neil rules! But I like Phil better.
I think Phil Collins is an excellent drummer, but I'd have to take Neil Peart over him. Nobody compares to the solos that Peart has done. I think he's been quite influential.

And it's not like Phil Collins has been around that much longer. He joined Genesis in 1970 while Neil Peart joined Rush in 1975. Not a huge difference when both have been going at it for over 30 years now.
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I have heard the song Take Me Home. Dunno about the others. I may have blocked them from my mind.

Call it USA Pop if you like, but not Pop. (Yes, I know hes English) Its too shmultzy for Pop. So are all those horrible Disney songs. Its difficult to describe. I think you would need to come over here, outside USA, and look back inwards to hear that bland USA sound. I do like heck of a lot of USA music, just not that Celine Dion /Journey/ REO Speedwagon / Phil Collins kinda shmultz.

I don't doubt hes an excellent drummer. He just shouldn't be solo thats all.
Oh, I totally agree with you that the Disney songs are shmultzy. (Even though You'll Be In My Heart has a special place for me). And his last two albums were absolute crap.

But the rest of his body of work? OUTSTANDING. Hid contributions to Genesis, and solo albums...just fantastic. Everyone agrees when U2 wins a Grammy, but when Phil wins 7 of them, all hell breaks loose.

Pease just take a second listen to these non-shmultzy songs. Long Long Way To Go, Take Me Home, Inside Out, In The Air Tonight, Behind The Lines, Do You Know Do You Care, I Don't Care Anymore, Thru These Walls, Like China, Another Day In Paradise, Colours, I Wish It Would Rain Down, Both Sides of the Story,.... and that's just his solo efforts.

I could go on, really.
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I know most of those songs. I'm old enough to have been around when most of them were hits. I still don't like them though. loll. The only one I can vaguely tolerate is that "Eyes are burning Mumma, feel my body shake" song.

As I said before though he could well be an excellent drummer but I would like his music more if Peter Gabriel was writing the songs.
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Phil would be a better drummer had he never opened his mouth and become a singer.

Neil Peart is a better drummer and lyricist than Phil.
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I like john bonham and stewart copeland's drumming better than all 3.

but I like larry's drumming best of the 3 mentioned; then peart; .....phil collins would be somewhere around 96 or 97th.
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I like john bonham and stewart copeland's drumming better than all 3.

but I like larry's drumming best of the 3 mentioned; then peart; .....phil collins would be somewhere around 96 or 97th.
I agree with every word written here.
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I like john bonham and stewart copeland's drumming better than all 3.

but I like larry's drumming best of the 3 mentioned; then peart; .....phil collins would be somewhere around 96 or 97th.
Right, and I bet this is exactly because he's a "Disney singer" now, negating all his incredible efforts in the world of drumming.

Go by "A Trick of the Tail" and "Duke" and tell me again he doesn't belong in the top five.
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I wouldn't be surprised if I heard next that Nick Mason was a better drummer than Phil, simply because he's in a classic band.
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