Kyoto, Japan Superthread

[Axver]

I would totally support this.

U2 & The Cure, together at last.

Such a website would be :cornflakes: to me.

 

[Axver]

By women. His male mates would probably just go "PHWOAR!! YEAH!!".

Yes, I know that's sexist. But so are guys like that, so I can't care much.

Touche.

This is most of the male population too. I'm still not entirely sure how I got through high school surrounded by these sorts.

 

[bono_212]

Such a website would be :cornflakes: to me.

Where is Bonnie

 

[Axver]

You guys would be surprised at how excited i am for the new U2 song.

it's going to be the hotness. possibly the hottest thing you could imagine. submarines and gasolines.

You won't be surprised how unexcited I am.

Just the very title exudes a sensation of "Ax, you're going to hate this". I just cannot imagine any song with the lyric "get on your boots" being good.

Well, wait and see. I'll give it a fair listen.

 

[Axver]

I see it like, if I can take control of a guy, using whatever advantages I have, that gives me power. 'Traditionally' guys use girls. Girls who want nothing but a boyfriend let guys walk all over them just for a little bit of affection. I prefer the role reversal. I've used guys. If I can control a guy and stay in power, then he can never control me.

I see this as a completely false construct.

Fundamentally, the guy retains control. He's willing to let you exercise some power within specific bounds (i.e. his cock), but he defines those bounds. Whatever power you have is granted by him and can be revoked by him - probably the moment he sees something that appeals more. It's a fragile, tenuous sense of power that is more delusion than actual control. He's still using you.

Meanwhile, outside of those bounds, you still don't have the power. Real power would be breaking down whatever inhibits you from acting there and doing so anyway - i.e. exercising control over something other than the guy's cock, exercising control where he isn't inclined to let you.

But then, I don't see why you'd want to be exercising power anyway. It's not the best way to construct and define inter-personal relationships.

 

[DreamOutLoud13]

I can't continue arguing it, because clearly we're not going to see eye to eye. I can't explain how it works in my head, but somehow it just does. Maybe I'm just completely screwed up in the head, but somehow, I manage to feel powerful and never out of control in such situations.

Maybe I just end up with really lame guys who like being walked all over. I don't know.


The thing I want to get clear though, is that none of you people think I'm a slut, right?

 

[liamcool]

No.

I have a bigger problem, though.

I just sang a bluegrass song AND enjoyed it.

 

[bono_212]

 

[Axver]

I can't continue arguing it, because clearly we're not going to see eye to eye. I can't explain how it works in my head, but somehow it just does. Maybe I'm just completely screwed up in the head, but somehow, I manage to feel powerful and never out of control in such situations.

I know where you're coming from. I've done my share of feminist theory (as you'd bloody well hope, given I'd like to be a specialist on New Zealand women's history) and I've seen your position advanced multiple times. I don't entirely discredit it, since there is certainly a psychological value in acting from a position of perceived power, and I'm not saying there is no power, just that you do not independently define its values. After all, the man is only granting the power because he is getting something he wants.

The thing I want to get clear though, is that none of you people think I'm a slut, right?

I don't.

 

[Axver]

 

[liamcool]

He needs a Lolhurst to his Sad Bob?

 

[Axver]

He needs a Lolhurst to his Sad Bob?

That was dreadful.

And I was trying to remember last night a story you'd told me once about The Cure recording an album in a week and consuming some utterly obscene amount of wine. Care to refresh my memory?

 

[The Sad Punk]

Why must great things be in fruition when my internet is the shittiest fucking thing in the known universe, all throughout the complete history of space and time?

 

[liamcool]

That was dreadful.

And I was trying to remember last night a story you'd told me once about The Cure recording an album in a week and consuming some utterly obscene amount of wine. Care to refresh my memory?

I laughed at it.

The Cure recorded Kiss Me at Miraval Studios in France, which has a vinyard. Over their stay, they consumed something along the lines of 150 bottles of wine. A WEEK. For about three months.

 

[bono_212]

Why must great things be in fruition when my internet is the shittiest fucking thing in the known universe, all throughout the complete history of space and time?

I don't know, but it's making me quite sad.

 

[bono_212]

I laughed at it.

The Cure recorded Kiss Me at Miraval Studios in France, which has a vinyard. Over their stay, they consumed something along the lines of 150 bottles of wine. A WEEK. For about three months.

Kiss Me suddenly makes a hell of a lot of sense.

 

[Axver]

I laughed at it.

The Cure recorded Kiss Me at Miraval Studios in France, which has a vinyard. Over their stay, they consumed something along the lines of 150 bottles of wine. A WEEK. For about three months.

So did I, but it was still dreadful.

And there's another name for that, Liam. ALCOHOL POISONING.

 

[liamcool]

So did I, but it was still dreadful.

And there's another name for that, Liam. ALCOHOL POISONING.

Funnily enough, they didn't recognise that Lolhurst was an alcoholic until two years later.

 

[liamcool]

Kiss Me suddenly makes a hell of a lot of sense.

Well, all of their albums were done on SOME drugs up to that point (except TIB)

For anyone who cares, a game: Guess the drugs.

 

[Alisaura]

The thing I want to get clear though, is that none of you people think I'm a slut, right?

Belatedly, I don't either.

 

[Axver]

Funnily enough, they didn't recognise that Lolhurst was an alcoholic until two years later.

I take it Tolhurst was drinking about 148 of those 150 bottles per week?

 

[liamcool]

I take it Tolhurst was drinking about 148 of those 150 bottles per week?

Nah, Smith was drinking more, Gallup had a problem circa 92 with drugs and drink, Porl looks like this now, so guess how much he drank:

Le sigh Porl, age has not treated you well. And Boris was a bit of a drinker too, considering his previous job was a no-alcohol zone.

 

[bono_212]

Ok, I'm done with this nonsense now!

 

[Axver]

Porl looks like this now, so guess how much he drank:

... ouch.

Time and substance abuse have ravaged The Cure indeed.

I, uh, think I'll stick with 1 or 2 glasses of wine tonight.

 

[Axver]

Ok, I'm done with this nonsense now!

I love you.

 

[bono_212]

I love you.

You just love Robert Smith.

 

[Axver]

You just love Robert Smith.

No, Liam's Bobert's boy lover.

 

[bono_212]

No, Liam's Bobert's boy lover.

Is it guy love?

Between two guys?

 

[Axver]

Is it guy love?

Between two guys?

It's true goth love.

 

[bono_212]

It's true goth love.

Then it will never tear them apart.