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Old 05-23-2002, 06:30 PM   #31
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You never hear about someone smoking pot and driving their car and killing people...
You're still going to get the DWI if you're caught smoking in your car.
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Old 05-23-2002, 07:01 PM   #32
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*AHEM*
Looks like it's time for the west coast to speak up. Actually here in Seattle recently we voted on a particular piece of legislation stating that we don't want police officers activly pursuing individuals for possetion. We want the punishment to be reduced to a fine rather than incarceration as well. We also (like the rest of the west coast) have approved marijuana for medicinal purposes.
In reference to the health hazards of marijuans, yes my dear melon I am afraid that you over exaggerate the carcinogenic effects of my beloved sensi. I also thought that weed was horribly carcinogenic, but my sister, a cancer research specialist at a biotech firm here in Seattle, told me this week that actually that is an urban myth. (I belive this because of her years of research and because she herself does not embibe in said drug.) Yes it is carcenogenic, but actually much less so than cigaretts. It is more carcenogenic than *tobacco* but here we are refering to straight unprocessed tobacco. Cigarettes are actually far worse than pot is. And also as previosuly stated I smoke no where near as much weed as your average smoker smokes cigarettes each day.
I would also like to point out that despite the fact that I do engage in the ill flamping at least once a day, I am also on the dean's list at my private university and that I am a fairly accomplished martial artist. My lungs have yet to present me with a single problem despite my rigourous training schedual.
Europe has been decriminalizing left and right of late and I think Canada will make it's move soon as well. The only reason it is illegal here in the first place is that stupid DuPont made a whole damn lot of money off of the illegality of hemp and it's sister canabis sativa. At any rate the millions of americans who engage in weed and lead healthy normal lives has never wavered and I don't think that the first plant EVER cultivated by human beings can be kept down for long. I still find it ammusing that a plant is illgal. (OH NO IT'S GROWING!!! STOP IT!!!) And I mean at the very least here is a drug that keeps people happy and in their homes away from others and it certainly surpresses violent tendancies. We are not bad people. Plus you can smoke pot at night and wake up in time for work the next day every time, unlike our legal drug, alcohol. SO, yeah that's my rant people.

LEGLIZE IT - DON'T CRITICIZE IT!

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Old 05-23-2002, 08:18 PM   #33
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I believe a social stigma exists around pot and hence, it has not become legalised. It is seen as 'illegal' and thus, must be bad. The only reason drinking alcohol has become a social norm is because it has been legal for so long now. If alcohol was illegal too (it also has side effects), we would have an attitude over that.

People often argue pot leads to other things, harder drugs - thats why it should never be legalised. But doesnt alcohol do that too? As a kid, dont you normally have a beer or something before you try a joint? So really, alcohol is also a step towards other things too right?

Long live the day when coming home from work and having a joint is as normal as coming home from work and having a beer!

PS - Im glad I didnt find this thread last night when I was out of it! lol
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pot is sooooo 1985. "look at me...i'm high. duuuuuude." lol.

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Old 05-23-2002, 10:28 PM   #35
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pot is sooooo 1985. "look at me...i'm high. duuuuuude." lol.

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Wicked!!!! the Smiley's are back- too cool I remember this thread from last year, now whatever did happen to both Block and Ass Hare???- oh those were the days!!!!!!!!!
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Drug debates will never end. One thing I cannot stand, is the presumptions that get bandied about. Fact is, I am sure that most 'drugs' are not 'good' for you, and I guess each person makes their own judgement (or not) on whether it's worth the risks.

But in the end, there are bigger problems in the world. Want to really tackle drug abuse (as opposed to drug use)? Then tackle poverty and unemployment and the causes thereof.

I realise I am drifting off-topic somewhat, as this is mainly a thread about pot, and recreational use of it. I've never tried pot, have no idea as to its effects.

Hmmm, this is turning into a ramble and an uneducated one at that: look, simply put I think none of us is going to live forever, different drugs can (not necessarily WILL) lead to varying degrees of misery, but in the meantime they may help a lot of folk get through the day. Getting through the day has a lot to recommend it.

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Old 05-24-2002, 09:41 AM   #39
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*AHEM*
Looks like it's time for the west coast to speak up. Actually here in Seattle recently we voted on a particular piece of legislation stating that we don't want police officers activly pursuing individuals for possetion. We want the punishment to be reduced to a fine rather than incarceration as well. We also (like the rest of the west coast) have approved marijuana for medicinal purposes.
In reference to the health hazards of marijuans, yes my dear melon I am afraid that you over exaggerate the carcinogenic effects of my beloved sensi. I also thought that weed was horribly carcinogenic, but my sister, a cancer research specialist at a biotech firm here in Seattle, told me this week that actually that is an urban myth. (I belive this because of her years of research and because she herself does not embibe in said drug.) Yes it is carcenogenic, but actually much less so than cigaretts. It is more carcenogenic than *tobacco* but here we are refering to straight unprocessed tobacco. Cigarettes are actually far worse than pot is. And also as previosuly stated I smoke no where near as much weed as your average smoker smokes cigarettes each day.
I would also like to point out that despite the fact that I do engage in the ill flamping at least once a day, I am also on the dean's list at my private university and that I am a fairly accomplished martial artist. My lungs have yet to present me with a single problem despite my rigourous training schedual.
Europe has been decriminalizing left and right of late and I think Canada will make it's move soon as well. The only reason it is illegal here in the first place is that stupid DuPont made a whole damn lot of money off of the illegality of hemp and it's sister canabis sativa. At any rate the millions of americans who engage in weed and lead healthy normal lives has never wavered and I don't think that the first plant EVER cultivated by human beings can be kept down for long. I still find it ammusing that a plant is illgal. (OH NO IT'S GROWING!!! STOP IT!!!) And I mean at the very least here is a drug that keeps people happy and in their homes away from others and it certainly surpresses violent tendancies. We are not bad people. Plus you can smoke pot at night and wake up in time for work the next day every time, unlike our legal drug, alcohol. SO, yeah that's my rant people.

LEGLIZE IT - DON'T CRITICIZE IT!

I should be able to put anything in my body that I want to.

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wow, a *really* old thread.

anyway, baker, it sounds like you're saying "one pot is worse than one cigarette, but not as bad as a whole pack, so it should be legal!" if i'm wrong, correct me.

anyway, i don't really care one way or the other. although, i don't endorse doing illegal stuff. i'm not some perfect law abiding citizen where i think we should all obey the law like robots, but if a substance is illegal, why smoke it? if you need a drug (legal or not) to feel better, it makes me wonder.

on the other hand, if it was made legal, hey, i'd have no qualms. most anything is all right in moderation. it's okay to eat mcdonald's, but making it every meal every day is bad. and since pot doesn't seem as addictive as cigarettes, i think pot should be legal while cigarettes made illegal. but that's just me.
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I should be able to put anything in my body that I want to.

I assume you're in favor of the legalization of all drugs and the removal of restrictions on prescrition drugs: Tylenol, heroin, and paxil all available over the counter. Correct?
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A bit bitter are we?

ummmmm......no. Actually I was asking joyfulgirl about her views on allowing people to put anything in their body that they want to. Maybe I should have come right out and said I wasn't trying to be cute or sarcastic or make a point, but I thought that would be assumed. I was just asking a question. Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt.
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Now this is someone who is open minded!
as long as you're not being sarcastic, thanks!

as i said before, i really don't have a problem with the legalization of pot. in moderation, it can be a good thing. at the very least, it has helped a lot of cancer patients live a lot better.
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ummmmm......no. Actually I was asking joyfulgirl about her views on allowing people to put anything in their body that they want to. Maybe I should have come right out and said I wasn't trying to be cute or sarcastic or make a point, but I thought that would be assumed. I was just asking a question. Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt.
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as long as you're not being sarcastic, thanks!

as i said before, i really don't have a problem with the legalization of pot. in moderation, it can be a good thing. at the very least, it has helped a lot of cancer patients live a lot better.
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