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Old 08-28-2001, 04:20 PM   #16
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...it would have been legalized in the 60s by Canada if it wasn't for regans wife and her "just say no" campaigne that scared the Canadian ...lazy ass...polloticians in to re-thinking there idea)

.....you've followed my threads?
She wasn't First Lady, and Ronald Reagan wasn't President, until January, 1981. Are you sure you have never smoked it?

And yes, I've read your threads all along. I've always been one of Melon's few allies on this issue (though not on many other issues).

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Old 08-28-2001, 05:04 PM   #17
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U2Bama i do think BLOCK meant the '80s and it was a misprint. I also don't think it would be a waste of legislators time to look at this issue. It's not just one of whether to appease people who want to get high...in addition to the arguments about tax collection (if it was decriminalized/regulated) and medicianl use, there's the issue the cops (above) are talking about. The millions spent in the states busting people for pot smoking, putting them through the legal system, and, many times, in jail. That kind of use of tax payers money is surely a good discussion/debating point for legislators. Of course, i'm a little spoiled up here in Victoria, British Columbia...yes, it's illegal here, too, but not many cops care, unless it's a major grow op they stumble onto.
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finally someone has a clear mind, thank you Judah for reminding us what this thread was actually about (i had forgotten myself)

and yes, that was a miss typed date

and to U2Bama..i never said i didn't smoke..i just said i have never been high
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Old 08-29-2001, 12:19 AM   #19
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Yes, the courts would be a lot less costly if we just went ahead and legalized everything that is illegal now.

And, BLOCK, I do have a clear mind; just because I don't want pot legalized doesn't mean I don't have a clear mind.

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Old 08-29-2001, 02:03 PM   #20
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i didn't mean it in that way...i ment that we were at each orthers necks about this issue..so we didn't have clear minds about the real issue (the cost) we were all into drugs are good/drugs are bad dialog
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Oh how this issue will never die.

While it has been determined that tobacco smoking causes lung cancer, it has little to do with the substances in it, but with the sheer fact that none of that shit is supposed to be in your lungs.

The reality is that pot is not healthy whatsoever, and you may argue time and time again that everything from alcohol to hamburgers can give you cancer, but the body has mechanisms to break down those toxins. Your body has little recourse for lung damage, except for allowing a build-up of that shit or becoming scar tissue. Hence, eventual lung cancer and/or emphysema. And just so you know, one joint has the tar of an entire pack of cigarettes.

That in mind, it is well within the government's power and ethical obligation to prohibit such substances, and, personally, I wish tobacco products were rendered illegal. I'm not blind to the fact that marijuana was made illegal out of racism in the late 1940s, but, regardless of that, we've since learned exactly why it should be banned, and that is due to health reasons.

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Melon you are wrong. I've read/heard from various sources that a joint of weed has 5-10x the chemicals in one cig, but not a whole pack. Also, since you smoke very little weed to get high, it doesn't matter.
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Should you legally be able to operate a vehicle stoned? What about using in public?

But, fear not, dear junkies-- The CIA will always be there to support your cravings--legal or not!
Wow, for one of the first times Im actually agreeing and disagreeeing with someone at the same time.

You were doin great up to the point about driving. I dont know about in the States, but in Canada it is already ILLEGAL to Drive While Impaired. Impaired most commonly refers to alcohol, but it can and is also applied to drugs. It is illegal to operate a vehicle if you are on prescription drugs that impair your ability to safely do so. The same goes for weed. If you get pulled over because you are driving erratically or during a spot check and the officer feels you are impaired in any way, you will be charged. If your joint is still burning, you'll get charged with possession as well, and even possibly dangerous driving.

As for the 'in public' question, who gives a damn? People drink in public. People smoke CIGARRETTES in public, which are deliberately laced with toxins to keep you hooked.

Now for the part I agree with: of course, the CIA is the biggest drug dealer in the world, and one of the big reasons the war on drugs will NEVER be won.


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baker:

Why are you resurrecting all of melon's anti-pot stances? Have you found a new joy in life or something? Just curious.

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The politicians who are against weed/hemp etc. are drunks who have never tried it.

The effects of alcohol (addiction/abuse/sickness) etc. are much worse than that of weed.

I only speak for myself, but I think the whole argument is hypocritical.

Drunks are not mellow. That is my last thought.
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How far back did you guys have to go to find this post???

P.S. I side with the "pot heads"

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It should be legalised. We should have the police cracking down on the drugs that really matter, not marijuana. My best friend's grandparents in Kerala smoke marijuana as a part of their cultural heritage, and they've lived to a ripe old age, while her western grandparents are both dead at 63. I'm not saying marijuana is good for you, I'm saying that its quite common, quite harmless compared to other drugs, and the police should concentrate their very limited resources on the real killers.

Legalise it, move on to the other drugs that matter. Isn't Holland the one that has legalised it? I forget which one exactly... well, the point is the country that has legalised it has a LOT less problems with drugs than say, Britain. And America, I may add.

Legalise it.
I'm not a junkie, I'm a teetotaller with an open-mind. I'm not saying that its right, what I'm saying is that I don't DO drugs. I just think the justice system should focus on the real threat.


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That's what I like to hear, legalize marijuana. I am a "casual" smoker of the stuff, and so far I havn't seen any MAJOR effects to my memory, or speach. To me, loss of sleep hurts my speach and memory more, and all marijuana does is make my sleepy.

I personally have nothing against it, and I don't have any problem with people saying what they want about "pot-heads". But no one hear can claim that marijuana is any worst than Tobacco, or Alcohol.

If someone thinks they have proof otherwise, please do tell.

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