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Old 12-03-2005, 11:28 AM   #1
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John Lennon Interview: "we had whores"

From NME.com:

John Lennon tells all in 'new' interview
The legend lays into his old bandmates
John Lennon compared life in The Beatles with
decadent ancient Rome in an interview to be
roadcast in the UK for the first time.

The interview for Rolling Stone magazine in
December 1970, eight months after the band split,
will be aired on BBC Radio 4 at 7pm on December 3.

According to the BBC, Lennon, who was shot dead
on December 8 1980, said the circle around the
band was a "portable Rome" of money, sex and
drugs. "Everyone wanted in," he said.

In the interview, conducted by Rolling Stone
founder Jann Wenner, Lennon exploded the clean-
cut image of "the Fab Four".

"Everybody around you wants the image to carry
on," he said. "That's why some of them are
clinging to it.

"'Don't take away our portable Rome, where we
can all have our houses and our cars, and our
lovers and our wives, and our office girls and
parties and drink and drugs.'"

Lennon also revealed the band's darker side on
tour.

"If you couldn't get groupies, we had whores," he
claimed. "Whatever was going.

"There were photos of me crawling round on my
knees coming out of whorehouses in Amsterdam
with people saying: 'Good morning, John.'"

Lennon claimed the photos and other revelations
did not come to light because people did not want
"a big scandal".

The singer also attacked his former songwriting
partner and bandmate, Paul McCartney .

"We got fed up of being sidemen to Paul after Brian
Epstein (The Beatles' manager) died," he said.

"Paul took over and supposedly led us. What's
leading us when you wander round in circles?"

Lennon claimed the pair's songwriting partnership
had ended "around 1962 or something".

"All our best work, apart from the really early ones
like 'I Want to Hold Your Hand', were written
apart."

Amid the anger, Lennon still expressed respect for
his former partner McCartney.

"He's capable of great work and he will do it," he
admitted.

The ex-Beatle also complained about the personal
downside of his talent. "It's not fun being a
genius," he said. "It's torture."
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This is why I prefer McCartney (as a person). Lennon always had that cynicism about him. Had he lived, he might not be revered as much as he is.
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Had he lived, he might not be revered as much as he is.
I wholeheartedly agree with you about that, although as a rule I do prefer Lennon's work both with The Beatles and solo to McCartney's. McCartney eventually sucked and Lennon never really got the chance to (at least not too badly), and I think that's the biggest difference in the way people see them.
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I respect his honesty, his outspokeness. It was always his way. It is what made him great, musically and politically.
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Is this interview supposed to be shocking?
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His outrageousness was part of why I always preferred him to McCartney.
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His outrageousness was part of why I always preferred him to McCartney.
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This is why I prefer McCartney (as a person). Lennon always had that cynicism about him. Had he lived, he might not be revered as much as he is.
Part of this is the timeline too. This interview was in 1970. But a few years before his death, he had become a lot more optimistic-sounding. "Double Fantasy" was certainly a testament to that.

Anyway, I guess we'll never know what he would have turned out to be if he was still alive.

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They (Lennon and McCartney) also started talking more right before John died.
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Part of this is the timeline too. This interview was in 1970. But a few years before his death, he had become a lot more optimistic-sounding. "Double Fantasy" was certainly a testament to that.
It's funny, I was just thinking of this "we had whores" bit in tandem with some of the more hippie-type sexual exhibitionism he engaged in later (the bed-in, Oh Calcutta, etc.) and reflecting that to someone my mother's age (for example), it would probably all look like one long orgy, with no discernible difference in "message" between the two phases. Weird how that works.
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Is this interview supposed to be shocking?
"Rock star in shagging groupies shock!!!!!"

Whatever will they do next!
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WHORES, WHORES?!?, we prefer the term sex trade worker. What an asshole!
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Lennon was pretty bitter at this time and his whole attitude was to "destroy the Beatles myth". It was only months after the Beatles split but in the next few years he became alot more comfortable with his past, especially during the year and a half he split with Yoko. At that point(74ish) he began to see Paul socially a bit, although not much came of that except for a really drunken jam(I looked for ages for the MP3 and it was so bad I deleted it)

As far as that interview goes, rolling Stone eventually made a paperback of it and the whole text was bitter and depressing. One good thing that came out though was National Lampoon made a hilarious parody from it.

http://s54.you sendit.com /d.aspx?id=27ZZ6T0YV4JCY30EICH8BGBB57





Keep in mind all the lyrics from the song came directly from the interview and they just stuck all the best bits together to make the song-Obviously not Lennon singing but still he sounds like a Madman
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