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Old 03-06-2007, 07:57 PM   #16
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Bethoveen is intelligent music? So is Mozart, Bach, Chopin.
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No, there is not really such thing as "intelligent music". It's all in the mind, a myth perpetuated by those who were against the idea of someone "making music for the sake of fun or commerical gain."

In the eyes of these people, a piece of music or a musical "group" or "artist" was only credible if it they made their music for the sake of "art" and "art" alone, hence making it "intelligent." Just a form of elitism.

What music should be all about, IMO, is having fun and making something that sounds good. Not making something that sounds like shite. That's not intelligent, that's just silly.

Indeed, where is this underlying principle that certifies Paris Hilton's music as less "intelligent" than Radiohead's? The quality of the song should be judged on the level of enjoyment, not upon how avant-garde or unprecedented something is.
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it's cold as ice , not human enough

Classic music shows you whats right and whats wrong with our society
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What about those songs that helped you learn your times table?
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All i know is what i like
And what i like is jazz , Blues & electronic music===>>> everything in between , there is future and real life in those genres
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it's cold as ice , not human enough
What is? Classical music? If so, I must respectfully disagree with you. I think classical music is just as human as any kind of music, sometimes even more so. Especially if you equate "human" with "emotion." The third movement of Shostakovich's Symphony For Strings Op. 118a is probably the most moving piece of music I've ever heard.
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What is? Classical music? If so, I must respectfully disagree with you. I think classical music is just as human as any kind of music, sometimes even more so. Especially if you equate "human" with "emotion." The third movement of Shostakovich's Symphony For Strings Op. 118a is probably the most moving piece of music I've ever heard.


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The suite from The Gadfly is transcendent...
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Classic music shows you whats right and whats wrong with our society
So ... you're saying classical music is too cold, not human enough ... and then say it's an example of what's wrong with our society?

Or are you saying it's an example of what's RIGHT with our society? If so, I think that contradicts your first statement.

To say that classical music is cold and not human enough is baffling to me.
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When i think of "intelligent music", I kind of think of a bunch of German guys sitting around in black turtlenecks listening to Kraftwerk while doing large math sums on big chalkboards.

Or, alternately, that "new age" shit that plays in homeopathic medicine shops, which has spawned even worse - artists like Enya. I'm not a 20-something woman with low self-confidence contemplating how my period relates to the earth mother cycle in the celestial ocean, so I don't really get Enya.
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When i think of "intelligent music", I kind of think of a bunch of German guys sitting around in black turtlenecks listening to Kraftwerk while doing large math sums on big chalkboards.

Or, alternately, that "new age" shit that plays in homeopathic medicine shops, which has spawned even worse - artists like Enya. I'm not a 20-something woman with low self-confidence contemplating how my period relates to the earth mother cycle in the celestial ocean, so I don't really get Enya.
Well said. Although I don't mind some Enya once in a while to relieve the rock n roll.

There is no such thing as intelligent music. It's all snob talk.
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There is no such thing as intelligent music. It's all snob talk.
I'll probably end the thread with this next offering

I was reading something the other day, and came across this qoute by Alan Bennett, a Bristish writer. He's talking about books here, but if you insert 'music' for "reading," it really capures how I feel about a great song:

"The best moments in reading are when you come across something — a thought, a feeling, a way of looking at things — which you had thought special and particular to you. Now here it is, set down by someone else, a person you have never met, someone even who is long dead. And it is as if a hand has come out and taken yours..."

Taste is absolutely subjective, but I would say any kind of music that fits that criteria is pretty damn intelligent.
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I found some stuff on "The Mozart Effect":

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The Mozart Effect was founded by Gordon Shaw and some of his fellow colleagues. This experiment showed how music affects the brain to increase intelligence and spatial-temporal memory.

In the first experiment, college students took an intelligence test before listening to the first 10 minutes of Mozart’s Sonata for Two Pianos in D Major.

After listening to the song, the students were given another intelligence test. The scores increased by eight to nine points. This showed that the spatial-temporal reasoning and memory were enhanced by listening to the music.

The experiment was repeated many times. The scores were never as drastic as the first, but they always increased

Also, EEG coherence studies were done along with fMRI studies that showed cortical blood oxygenation activation by the Mozart sonata. These studies, also, showed that the Mozart Effect is important for spatial-temporal reasoning and memory.

All of this information can be found in Gordon Shaw’s notes and article called The Mozart Effect.
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