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Old 08-06-2002, 04:25 PM   #46
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Hopefully a reasonable plan B will develop. How many of us would have just clicked the site off when prompted to pay $24 the first time you visited? I'm certain I would have just said no thanks and moved on to another site. Having spent 18 months here I have a different outlook, but I assume making it a pay site will likely result in few to no new members, along with the loss of a fair percentage of current members. I think the current Paypal fundraiser will heat up and hopefully end up being enough to support a year, but its clearly a short term solution...not too many people will likely do it each year.
Some other revenue stream needs to be found...I don't know where...yearly auctions of U2 memorabilia (assuming there was any way to get hold of such items considering this site is not the official band site)...just thinking out loud.
Anyway, hopefully someone with a greater knowledge of internet revenues than me (That's pretty much everyone) can come up with a decent idea.

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Old 08-06-2002, 04:27 PM   #47
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Elvis is right. If even *half* our members donated 2.00--less than a lunch!--we'd be well over our goal.

If you really value the diversity and openness of Interference, donate, even if it's only a dollar or two. Then we can stop talking about subscriptions and such, and Interference will be the same crazy place it's always been.

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Old 08-06-2002, 05:21 PM   #48
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I voted yes, because to me the site is worth a reasonable amount. However, one of the reasons this site is worth that much to me is because of the diversity, which I'm almost positive wouldn't be here if interference had started out as a pay site. I agree with Hewson, had this been a paysite when I first visited, I probably would've said no thanks and moved on. Another potential problem: what if one of our regulars who can afford it now finds themselves out of a job for an extended period of time later down the road, then what - they can no longer be a member cause they can't fork out the dough?

Maybe you could set up a voluntary subscription program, you might be surprised by the response you get (so says the optimist in me ). Allow new people to join without any payments, but also allow for a subscription. Maybe give paying members a couple more benefits, but allow the members themselves to make the decision. Maybe send out a friendly email every few months to non-paying members specifying how their money will help interference continue to grow and improve, etc, etc. As you see, a lot of people here agree that the site is worth it, so I think you would be able to get a good subscription base from that. And the donation option has only been up for how long and it's already raised around $550.

Keep it voluntary . I don't mind sending some of my money to Elvis so he can keep this site going strong, but I don't like the idea of being forced to send money just so I can stick around. It's too prohibitive and will undoubtedly cut the size of the interference community significantly and also discourage a lot of newcomers from joining in, I fear.
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Old 08-06-2002, 05:27 PM   #49
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I think that a small fee is reasonable. Although I don't think that people should be forced to pay to Paxetaurora said have a "supporting member" type status.
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Old 08-06-2002, 05:33 PM   #50
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ya know, i agree with skeek on this one.

i dont have alot of money either, and i know it would cost little to contribute AND i am very grateful for this place.


everything must come to and end, and if it came down to it, i dont think i could justify spending money on an internet forum. it just doesnt seem right. that money could go somewhere else, higher on a priority list for me.

in fact, i think if came down to it, personally, that would be a great incentive for me to become less dependant of spending so much time on the internet.

my 2 cents.

so i guess, the short answer would be, "no."
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Old 08-06-2002, 05:39 PM   #51
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Deathbear pretty much stole the words out of my mouth. I do like this place, but I'd never pay for it. I'd find a different forum.
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Old 08-06-2002, 05:45 PM   #52
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I'm not going to mention names... but some INCREDIBLY nice member has donated in the name of another member, one that has stated he/she can't afford to donate. That's SO cool.
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Old 08-06-2002, 05:45 PM   #53
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Yes, I would be willing to pay, it's not a problem for me. I would hate to see Interference end because of money. I spend ALOT of time here and don't mind paying for the the privilege.
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Old 08-06-2002, 05:46 PM   #54
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I said yes, though I wouldn't be able to if I don't hurry up and get a credit card!

I as well do not like "snail mail"
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Old 08-06-2002, 05:51 PM   #55
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I agree with what Martha said. I think it is wrong to chastise other members. The young members (ages 11-18 or so ) donít even have credit cards and cannot pay. Sure, some of their parents might do it for them. Also, not everybodyís experience is the same, some of us as teenagers had a lot of pocket money, some have little, to none.

I made a donation in Ravenstarís name. I appreciate her contributions. I lurk occasionally. I very rarely post. I could live just fine without interference. I think most of you would. However, I think it is very generous for Joel to donate so much of his time and money for others enjoyment.
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Old 08-06-2002, 05:56 PM   #56
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i :heart: interference

hello. i do realize i am a frequent user of this site and have not yet paid. that is because my credit card was maxed. it has been paid down and i should be donating by weeks end.

i think there is a pretty good track record of pay-for services on the web and their lack of success. i see no reason why interference would be any different. if there were to be a mandatory payment from the outset of membership new member numbers would plummet. i am glad to see most here agree.

a voluntary payment at the time of joining would be beneficial in at least some cases.

most of the veterans and well known members here are adamant that it is definetely worth a small, reasonable fee. there are also some who agree but simply can't pay it. we realize and understand this because we have, over varied time frames, come to know and appreciate one another(for the most part). the fact is a fair number of members spend large portions of their days at interference. it's a part of thier life.

would a scalable pay rate be possible? could a new member be asked to pay a certain amount when their posts per day gets over a set number for a set period of time?

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like Paxetaurora said have a "supporting member" type status.
i disagree with this idea. there are those who will seize on this to create a sort of tiered society-those who help and those who don't. maybe give paying individuals some other benefit but not within a member status. something so public is sure to create rifts. especially for new members who chose not to donate.

i just hope those of us who are veterans can come to some sort of a consensus on this so that elvis can move forward with confidence
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Old 08-06-2002, 05:58 PM   #57
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What I fear is that if you make it a pay site, you will kill the newbies and, as us old timers go on with our lives, this place will have no fresh blood.

On more legal tones, though, a donation is fine and is also tax-exempt, but then if you make mandatory fees, you also become a taxable entity, who, if the wrong person comes across this site, may pursue you for tax evasion if is not organized as a business. In addition, this is a forum on a private, trademarked entity: U2. This forum, as it stands, certainly falls under fair use, but, again, the minute you start charging mandatory fees, fair use no longer applies. Again, if the wrong person comes across this place, you will have to deal with royalties, and I doubt that Vivendi Universal will be cheap for a place with such large traffic.

It is certainly none of my business as to how this place is organized, but you may find that charging fees may give you more than you bargain. I suggest, for you own sake, that you continue your donation campaign and stay away from the mandatory fees.

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Old 08-06-2002, 06:00 PM   #58
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I know most here say they would donate rather than see a yearly fee, and a lot of us can't afford to donate right now, but I was thinking...

What if the paid membership is only $1 per year for each registered name? Right now, with 7,157 members, at only ONE DOLLAR per member, this would be $7,157 per year. Now I know I'm not good at math, but would this not be a possible solution? I know we can ALL afford a minimal $1 per year registration fee, or whatever you want to call it.

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Old 08-06-2002, 06:04 PM   #59
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Originally posted by ABEL
What if the paid membership is only $1 per year for each registered name?
Even at $1.00, a required fee is taxable income, and, hence, opens the Pandora's Box I describe above.

If anyone, however, has any other legal thoughts, please mention them.

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Old 08-06-2002, 06:09 PM   #60
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Originally posted by melon

Even at $1.00, a required fee is taxable income, and, hence, opens the Pandora's Box I describe above.

If anyone, however, has any other legal thoughts, please mention them.

I didn't see your post melon...looks like we posted them about the same time...I hadn't thought about the tax and legal jargon

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