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Old 10-14-2003, 01:03 PM   #1
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crys Is Rock dead?

This question has been on my mind for the last couple of years, especially after ATYCLB came out. "Kite" ends, of course with words like "the last of the rock stars/when hip-hop drove the big cars". I wondered if it was some sort of prophecy or if that was how Bono really felt. I think that those words are very true. The top ten Billboard singles are r&b, hip- hop, and rap. Now, this is the music of everyone, not just a select few kids who wanna live the "thug life". The only people capable of still putting out rock that is consumed by the masses are U2, Bruce Springsteen, and ...who else? I know there are still popular po/rock groups and singers, bu the last few years have shown how hip-hop has slowly become the popular music of choice. My statement is not meant to say that there will be no more rock, but that there is not yet someone who might carry the baton to a new generation. Coldplay maybe, but willthey ever be able to sell out stadiums like the Rolling Stone, U2, DMB, the Boss, etc.? WHo will capture the imagination of future music listeners? I'd love to here any comments, criticism etc. about this.
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Old 10-14-2003, 01:40 PM   #2
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I think you're right. I live in a small town in the Midwest, and even here the teens/20-somethings seem to be way more into rap than rock - at least judging from what I hear blaring out of open car windows. And I honestly don't see very many rock bands out there that masses of young people can identify with in the intense way that past generations identified with The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, U2 or Nirvana. Sure, there's Radiohead, but it's hard to imagine them ever having more than cult following (OK, a pretty big cult following, but they simply are not household names out here in flyover land).

However, I don't have a crystal ball, so I can't say if this is just a temporary thing and the next Biggest Band in the World is bound to arrive sooner or later or if rock has simply gone as far as it can go.
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coldplay could do it... you could tell by the reaction they got in the middle of pop world... the mtv vma's. but they'd have to broaden their music a bit... i love it, but i can see how many would find it sleepy and depressing

radiohead could be the biggest band in the world, but they don't want to be.

i'm hoping pearl jam comes back strong now that they're completely on their own... without a record label. they finally get to do whatever they want to do without pressure to put out a huge pop hit. i think the fact that the record label pressured them into making 10 part 2 every time hurt their performance, and hurt it on purpose. their albums were filled with songs that played great live, but nothing really radio friendly (can you say pop). now that they don't have that on their backs now, i look for them to just make the best music they can possiably make.

audioslave's first album rocked... but they're not exactly a new band, just the pieces of two old bands... so who knows if they'll stay together, and if they do, for how long...

rock music is still alive, but it's hanging on by a thread. there are a few bands out there with the potential of stepping up to the plate with the likes of u2, springsteen, the stones, the who, paul mccartney/beatles... but right now those acts still dominate the tour scene. so long story short... i have no friggin clue
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I personally think it's far from dead.

Look at hiphop, there are really only about 2 big mainstream artists out there right now doing anything remotely innovative (Outkast, Missy Elliot). Other than that, it's all the exact same formula that's been used for the last 10 years. Sooner or later this is going to catch up on the hip hop world and people will loose major interest.

Why is rock far from being dead?
1. Rock acts are the only acts to have successful tours
2. Rock is still the highest selling genre world wide
3. MTV's influence is going down the toilet fast.
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Old 10-14-2003, 02:18 PM   #5
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it's just a matter of people paying too much attention to what everyone else listens to. no matter what, there will always be bands out there playing something you like, even if that is rock and mainstream rock is dead to you. it's just that you've got to find it.
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rock music is still alive, but it's hanging on by a thread. there are a few bands out there with the potential of stepping up to the plate with the likes of u2, springsteen, the stones, the who, paul mccartney/beatles... but right now those acts still dominate the tour scene. so long story short... i have no friggin clue
Besides U2 (I think) the rest of these artists well, are a little old to captivate younger people and get them into 'rock"
I think U2 has something special in the ability to pick up younger fans. The rest of the artists make money off the baby boom generation and are able to maintain therpopularity IMO
I'm sure Springsteen, Stones, and the Who pick up some young fans but I don't think they are the saviours of rock.
I think current "mainstream" rock is pretty dead I don't see any cool bands outthere
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Rock┤s been dead for a couple of years. Rock on.
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it's just a matter of people paying too much attention to what everyone else listens to. no matter what, there will always be bands out there playing something you like, even if that is rock and mainstream rock is dead to you. it's just that you've got to find it.
And one way to find it is watching the website of a favorite music club,...look what is on the agenda and try to find some music of the palying artist,..

Next month in vera ( the best rockclub in the Netherlands ) :

- Kinski
- Enon
- Kashmir

Yes, rock is still allive ( but it is to small these day`s )
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i contradicted myself in there didn't i, when i said that people pay too much attention to what others are listening to. i meant 'everyone'in a mainstream general public kind of sense...
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don't forget, people have been saying rock is dead since the 1970s.

Its influence seems to come and go in cycles....
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Rock isn't completely dead. There are some rock zombies strolling around.

Pick up the new album from Ryan Adams on November 4th. It will rock your brains out. There's only one slow song on it. It's fucking incredible.
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Rock will live, hopefully there will some good rock.
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Kat, I cannot wait for a rockin Ryan Adams record!
count me in on getting that album

quoting Headache (omg those lips ) :

"i'm hoping pearl jam comes back strong now that they're completely on their own... without a record label. they finally get to do whatever they want to do without pressure to put out a huge pop hit. i think the fact that the record label pressured them into making 10 part 2 every time hurt their performance, and hurt it on purpose. their albums were filled with songs that played great live, but nothing really radio friendly (can you say pop). now that they don't have that on their backs now, i look for them to just make the best music they can possiably make. "


good point...i didn't realize that Sony may have put pressure on them to put out Ten Part 2....but knowing how PJ are....they would never give in....i'm dying to see exactly what they're gonna do with this record label situation.
it's funny...but pearl jam hasn't been hurting at all with regards to popularity regardless of the lack of radio friendly hits, etc, etc,....sure, records sales are down...but my god, their concert attendance on a whole this tour was NUTS.
People are still crazy for PJ...if you ask me...they ARE the next best band in the world....their popularity seems to be on the rise, actually.
Check out the prices on ebay for the Benaroya show they're doing on Oct 22nd. It's insane.
in any case, PJ would be a worthy recipient of the torch
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I think R.E.M. has the potential to pull in younger fans.
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I think R.E.M. has the potential to pull in younger fans.
yep!
but unfortunately they've been playing to much less than full capacity audiences.
and i have NO fookin clue as to why....it is truly baffling.
as for PJ...what struck me the most is how many VERY young people were at the shows this summer....they've gained alot of younger fans....the fanclub lineups were CRAZY...most of them filled with 16 to 24 year olds camping over night...kinda like the scene with U2 and the Heart line ups.
why this doesn't happen for REM I'll never know.
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