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Old 09-19-2007, 10:43 PM   #571
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Force Unleashed could end up being the best Star Wars game ever.

Better than Shadows of the Empire, Knights of the Old Republic, Jedi Outcast II, and even Battlefront.
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Knights of the Republic will likely remain the best Star Wars video game ever made. Along with its sequel. Just aint gonna be topped.

The KOTOR series has, thanks in great part to Bioware, delivered a story greater than the entire film series, if you include the game's sequel. In my humble opinion, anyway.

I've ever lowered myself to the level of writing extensive KOTOR fanfiction back in my glory days.
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KOTOR was an experience, I was so into that game it wasn't even funny.
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KOTOR was an experience, I was so into that game it wasn't even funny.
That game literally make me rethink the way I viewed videogames as an art and entertainment medium.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:25 PM   #575
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That game literally make me rethink the way I viewed videogames as an art and entertainment medium.
Games like that are the next wave of entertainment, that's why so many movie -> game converts are going on right now (Heat, Scarface The Godfather...). It's like reading a "pick your own journey" book, except there's a good chance you play Al Pacino.

I can't wait until Glengarry Glen Ross: The Game.
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Video Games and Motion Pictures will one day merge into a single interactive, virtual entertainment medium.

How long until that happens is hard to say. But it's in our future.

Think holodeck on the Enterprise.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:42 PM   #577
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That's exactly what will happen.

How badass is that? Is that even quantifiable?

Probably not.
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And it all starts in 2009 with the first wave of Digital Stereoscopic Films.

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Old 09-19-2007, 11:52 PM   #579
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I've ever lowered myself to the level of writing extensive KOTOR fanfiction back in my glory days.
I think we have a winner, folks.

That makes me feel so less geeky for my SW posts of the last two days, I can't even tell you.

Unfortunately I never got a chance to play those games. Can you get them for Mac? I imagine they wouldn't be compatible with the new Intel chips for Mac though.
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I think we have a winner, folks.

That makes me feel so less geeky for my SW posts of the last two days, I can't even tell you.

Unfortunately I never got a chance to play those games. Can you get them for Mac? I imagine they wouldn't be compatible with the new Intel chips for Mac though.
You can install Windows on your mac and run the games that way.
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KOTOR is more than just a game. It's a way of life.

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Nothing ever makes me feel less dorky or geeky, because I'm a huge fucking dork.

I often think that the only thing that ever saved me from a daily ass-kicking in grade school was the fact that I played many sports. But, take me away from my love of sports, and you have 100% dork.

I have owned many video game consoles since having Telstar, which was after Pong but before Atari...but never really played KOTOR. I wish I had. I think the first Star Wars title I ever played was Battlefront.

This new one looks cool, though, regardless of how it stacks up to KOTOR, and so I'm looking forward to it.
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Video Games and Motion Pictures will one day merge into a single interactive, virtual entertainment medium.

How long until that happens is hard to say. But it's in our future.

Think holodeck on the Enterprise.
See...that's exactly what I don't want to happen. They shouldn't have anything to do with each other. Movies are movies and games are games. One of my biggest problems with the last generation or two of games is that they have become way too cinematic, to the point where developers can cloak a lack of gameplay with amazing graphics and film-like cinematics.

I have nothing against amazing graphics or cinematics, mind you. It's just that amazing graphics are only worth anything if they accompany a game with equally amazing gameplay, and too often these days, I see masses flocking to shitty games with amazing graphics(not saying KOTOR is a shitty game, I've never played it or even seen it played). As for cinematics...they are at their best when they are a payoff. When you've spent hours completing a big task in a game, the payoff can be a ten-minute cinematic. But I've literally seen games where it feels you're spending more time watching cinematics than playing, and that just seems very backwards to me.

I just feel that the more cinema is injected into games, the worse off gaming in general will be in the long run. Same goes for movies. If I want to watch a movie, I'll watch a movie. If I'm playing a game, it's because I want to play a game.

If they combine into one thing for this and that, that could be really cool, but the thought of them combing permantly to make one industry is something that I really hope doesn't happen. I feel it would degrade and cheapen both artforms.
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I definitely see where you're coming from namkcuR, but this is what I believe is going to happen.

We're definitely going to see the industry go where I initially said it would, but it's not going ot eliminate the other media. I beileve this "blend" of experience is going to become the predominent go-to form of entertainment for, at least this country. But I think we're still always going to have "classic" video games. That said, I think "traditional" cinema is going to stay intact in one degree, but more in the form of "art-house" pictures, which we movie-snobs love to analyse and discuss so much. However, the more mainstream, big-budget, F/X Porn ( ) films we see every summer these days are eventually going to evolve into this digital interactive medium I'm talking about. In a sense, a new medium will emerge out of two fundemantally basic ones, which will survive in their own niches.
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I'm actually working with technology right now that is going to be leading right into that synergy between cinema and gaming.

The company I work for invented a spherical camera that has 11 lenses (the base is where the 12th lens would be), all filming at the same time. We also have software that stitches all these views together, so when you're watching the playback, you use an standard game controller to rotate the view while it's playing, as if you're turning your own head. It's practically seamless.

So if you imagine a movie shot with this camera, where the viewer at home decides what they're looking at in any given moment, there are tons of possiblities with POV films that feature whodunnits, battle scenes, etc. Each time you watch it you can have a completely different experience. I'm sure the porn industry would love to get a hold of this as well, as they're usually at the forefront of any new tech developments.

Obviously this is the kind of thing that would only be viable with home entertainment. I don't see how you could make a film interactive in the theatrical format, unless you're having the audience vote on what they want to happen, which I think would make it difficult to get "lost" in what's on the screen. Because of that, I imagine regular movies are going to be around for quite some time.
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