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Old 01-30-2008, 05:46 PM   #31
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It was originally released in Europe in March of 2006. I don't care how long it took to come stateside, I can't in good conscious call it a 2007 movie. Films released in like December or so of the year before that get wider release a couple months later are sort of in a grey area, and I could concede to placing them in either year. But I'm not giving that one a fucking 11 month buffer to call it a 2007 film.
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:52 PM   #32
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Many Asian films aren't released in the US for over a year after they come out there. You can't put a film on a list retroactively.

It wasn't even one of those things that open in NY and LA for Oscar qualifying. You literally couldn't see it before February. Zodiac came out 3 weeks later, you want to disqualify that one too?
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Yeah, in 2007...

You're obviously just basing everything on US release dates. That's fine. I don't. If a film is made and released to the public in March of 2006, and I don't get the opportunity to see it until the next year, oh well, too bad. It should still be compared and related to its 2006 counterparts.
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But Lance, it was only seen in GERMANY. This is an international forum.

My Blueberry Nights premiered last May. Does that mean it will be ineligible for your 2008 list?





Norah and Jude certainly aren't going to like that.
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Film Festivals don't count. Especially ones where an unfinished version of the film is shown.

But given the fact that My Blueberry Nights was released last year in like, half the globe, yeah, it's fair to say it's a 2007 film. One we don't get to see until April, but nonetheless...
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So anyone who puts in on a Best of 2008 list is a fool, including all the critics?

I don't understand the logic.
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I'm not saying, that's how I view things. Not calling anyone a fool.

But The Lives of Others was an odd case, considering it WAS released so early in 2006, was on a lot of critics' 2006 lists, and was nominated in the Oscars for that year as well for foreign film.

It's like monkeyskin and his bizarre lists that everyone likes to point out. He doesn't get a lot of the big name 2007 films until 2008, so wouldn't it be weird to see all those films this time next year on his list?

That's all. I just think it's kind of weird. But that's film distribution for you.
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I'm not saying, that's how I view things. Not calling anyone a fool.

But The Lives of Others was an odd case, considering it WAS released so early in 2006, was on a lot of critics' 2006 lists, and was nominated in the Oscars for that year as well for foreign film.

It's like monkeyskin and his bizarre lists that everyone likes to point out. He doesn't get a lot of the big name 2007 films until 2008, so wouldn't it be weird to see all those films this time next year on his list?

That's all. I just think it's kind of weird. But that's film distribution for you.

Critics see things earlier than everyone else. And The Lives of Others wasn't released all over Europe in 2006. Look at the list of release dates, take away the film festival appearances, and the majority of countries didn't get it until 2007.


Country Date
Germany 15 March 2006 (Berlin) (premiere)
Germany 23 March 2006
Switzerland 6 August 2006 (Locarno Film Festival)
Austria 17 August 2006
Switzerland 17 August 2006 (German speaking region)
USA 3 September 2006 (Telluride Film Festival)
Canada 7 September 2006 (Toronto Film Festival)
Finland 17 September 2006 (Helsinki International Film Festival)
Argentina 29 September 2006 (German Film Festival)
Czech Republic 4 October 2006 (German Language Film Festival)
Denmark 13 October 2006
Finland 27 October 2006
Spain 5 November 2006 (Seville Film Festival)
Sweden 10 November 2006
USA 12 November 2006 (Denver International Film Festival)
Germany 16 November 2006 (DVD premiere)
France 19 November 2006 (Arras Film Festival)
Greece 14 December 2006 (Thessaloniki)
Czech Republic 4 January 2007
Poland 26 January 2007
Belgium 31 January 2007
France 31 January 2007
Hong Kong 1 February 2007
Portugal 8 February 2007 (Lisbon)
Taiwan 9 February 2007
USA 9 February 2007 (limited)
Japan 10 February 2007
Germany 13 February 2007 (Berlin International Film Festival)
Israel 15 February 2007
Spain 16 February 2007
UK 18 February 2007 (Keswick Film Festival)
Hungary 22 February 2007
Netherlands 1 March 2007
Singapore 1 March 2007
Thailand 1 March 2007
Bulgaria 5 March 2007 (Sofia International Film Festival)
Turkey 9 March 2007
Mexico 16 March 2007
Slovakia 22 March 2007
South Korea 22 March 2007
UK 23 March 2007 (Human Rights Watch Film Festival)
Australia 29 March 2007
Slovenia 29 March 2007
Italy 6 April 2007
Colombia 13 April 2007
UK 13 April 2007
Argentina 19 April 2007
Iceland 4 May 2007
Uruguay 11 May 2007 (Montevideo)
Russia 19 July 2007
Estonia 14 September 2007
Brazil 30 November 2007
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I really want to submit a list, but I've gotta see TWBB, Eastern Promises, and I'm Not There before I can, or I'll just blindly throw names on there.
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At least see the first and third. Though Promises is already out on DVD, right? Shouldn't be too hard to get.
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Right.

You forget about LMP's Mom. She drives the SUV and is a prude.

Love her to death, but come on. Seeing Magnolia and The Godfather was like pulling teeth.
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Right.

You forget about YLB's Mom. She drives the SUV and is a prude.

Love her to death, but come on. Seeing Magnolia and The Godfather was like pulling teeth.
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YLB SUV has a better ring to it, too.
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I'm not saying, that's how I view things. Not calling anyone a fool.

But The Lives of Others was an odd case, considering it WAS released so early in 2006, was on a lot of critics' 2006 lists, and was nominated in the Oscars for that year as well for foreign film.

It's like monkeyskin and his bizarre lists that everyone likes to point out. He doesn't get a lot of the big name 2007 films until 2008, so wouldn't it be weird to see all those films this time next year on his list?

That's all. I just think it's kind of weird. But that's film distribution for you.
I live in the UK and base all my rankings on UK release dates, just like all of the publications here. I know this is an international forum but it would take away a lot of the fun to have to wait until every film is released globally to compile yearly lists. I waited until mid January so's to include I'm Not There and Jesse James (both December releases in the UK but I was unable to see them for a while) but it's much more fun for everyone to do it at year end.

So I wouldn't call my lists bizarre, just UK and not USA based. Unless you're referring to Babel at #2.
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Right.

You forget about YLB's Mom. She drives the SUV and is a prude, unless you happen to have an extra $20 on hand.

Love her to death, but come on. Seeing Magnolia and The Godfather was like pulling teeth.

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