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Old 03-10-2005, 11:37 AM   #136
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Old 03-10-2005, 01:50 PM   #138
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Popmartijn, i wanna tell you about another strange habbit here. In a lot of shops, supermarkets and bars ect you will see prices of products without taxes. So if you go to the register to pay, don`t be when you need to pay more then the price label tells you.
yes. in most states (every state has a different tax rate and what's taxable), food, clothing, etc. is taxable. the price is usually listed without the sales tax on it. the only things i can think of that show you the price you pay are gas. if you want to buy a car, you have to pay sales tax. i really wish i didn't need to buy a car because the tax here is 9.25% which is the highest in the country, or pretty damn close.

that ~$2000 could buy me a lot more than just lining the pockets of the local politicians who then come begging for more, bullying us into raising taxes some more so no one has to be laid off.
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ehm, when you buy a second hand car from a privat person,...is that tax free ?
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i really wish i didn't need to buy a car because the tax here is 9.25% which is the highest in the country, or pretty damn close.
You're lucky.

In Ontario, we pay 15% sales tax.
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ehm, when you buy a second hand car from a privat person,...is that tax free ?

in California, you still have to pay sales tax based on the amount you pay for the car.
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You're lucky.

In Ontario, we pay 15% sales tax.
Apart from a 19% sales tax, the government here also has a special levy on the sales of new cars (called the BPM). That levy is 30% before the sales tax.

Yes, cars are expensive here.
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yes. in most states (every state has a different tax rate and what's taxable), food, clothing, etc. is taxable. the price is usually listed without the sales tax on it. the only things i can think of that show you the price you pay are gas. if you want to buy a car, you have to pay sales tax. i really wish i didn't need to buy a car because the tax here is 9.25% which is the highest in the country, or pretty damn close.


I work for a leasing company. Tennessee tax is a nasty mother to figure out in order to tax the equipment. We have to use an excel spreadsheet unlike 90% of the other states we just multiply the tax times the total equipment cost. Most of us fight over TN...and FL and WA. Those states are a pain and no one wants to deal with them! I don't know how stuff is taxed for food, clothing, etc but there's different rules for leases/loans and it sucks to do TN.

We don't pay tax in MN on food and clothing. It's a straight 6.5% or 7% depending on your city for anything that's not a "neccessity" like food and clothes. But I think the taxes we do pay from our paychecks are a lot higher than most states so they get us that way.
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ehm, when you buy a second hand car from a privat person,...is that tax free ?
unless you inherit it, you've got to pay taxes on it. when you go to get your license plate and stuff, they ask how you obtained the car.

my first car was inherited, the second one (r.i.p. fraumo ) i bought. i was tempted to say i inherited it, but my mom raised me better than that. i found out that she was tempted to say this as well but she too was raised to not lie and boring shit like that. i paid like $200 in taxes on it. thank god that was back before they raised the sales tax.

anitram, i can't believe the sales tax is that much there! the only benefit of the high sales tax is that we don't have a state income tax. i'm only taxed by the federal government. however, people in this state are lobbying to have our sales tax reduced by 2% (i think? or is it 4%?) and introduce an income tax. it's been proven time and time again that a high sales tax and no income tax (like what tennessee has now) hurts those in the lower classes because they buy more things that are taxed, while the higher classes have the money to invest and thus avoid paying taxes (for the time being at least).

i don't mind taxes, i really don't. hell, i'm a democrat. i just want to actually see some benefit, i want to see my tax dollars at work. instead, our city and county governments are getting deeper in debt thanks to a corrupt city mayor and the county mayor having to clean up the shit the last one left. our city is the laughingstock - hell, jay leno made fun of our city mayor and one of our senators in his monologue recently! this same senator doesn't even live in his jurisdiction. his defense? he DOES live there, supposedly, in a funeral parlour!? the only good to come of this is that i am now a city resident and this senator is now in my jurisdiction so i can vote against these assholes in 06 (although people are moving to try to impeach the mayor, which scares me. we don't have as many celebrities living here as california did, but i'm afraid isaac hayes and david gest will run as mayor and one of them will win.)

okay, sorry. i've gone terribly off-topic!
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I don't know how stuff is taxed for food, clothing, etc but there's different rules for leases/loans and it sucks to do TN.
everything is taxed in tennessee.

i forgot to mention in my last post that the proposal to introduce a state income tax and lower the sales tax also called for the elimination of sales tax on food and i think clothing as well.
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okay, sorry. i've gone terribly off-topic!
I don`t mind,...the more info i get the better
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btw i should mention, speaking of all this politics shit...as we speak, president bush is in my city. tomorrow, he's speaking mere blocks away from my apartment about his social security "plan." if i knew i wouldn't be arrested as a suspected terrorist, i'd go outside the convention center and protest this shit. linkie

and they are wrong, this is not bush country. tennessee is a red state, yes, but my county (shelby county) voted for kerry. the only presidential nominee who visited us was edwards, and it was when he was on the vp ticket with kerry. i wanted to go but the morons started it at 5 pm because of course everyone here gets off work at 3 pm. worst part is, most of them do.
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BTW 2 When i booked my flight and went to the airport i was affraid to be send back to the Netherlands because i am a member of the dutch socialistic party and a union member

I have twisted thoughts about America i guess

ehm, would you realy be arrested if you went out protesting ?
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ehm, would you realy be arrested if you went out protesting ?
i've come to expect anything of the bush administration. it's like the 60s all over again.

i've never travelled internationally before (something i hope to change eventually) so i'm not sure how much they look into a person before they can come in the u.s. did they interrogate you or anything when you got here? like "why are you coming to america?" or anything?
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