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Old 02-07-2004, 01:35 AM   #1
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I saw a hockey movie tonight.

My first one ever.

Miracle. It's very good, but now I have some hockey questions.

1. So, it's legal then for opponents to slam each other into the plexiglass around the rink?

2. And what about this substituting players at will? The guys just go in and out of the game whenever the coach decides?


Please speak slowly, using simple words. All I know about hockey is that it's played on ice and that has three periods
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My first one ever.

Miracle. It's very good, but now I have some hockey questions.

1. So, it's legal then for opponents to slam each other into the plexiglass around the rink?

2. And what about this substituting players at will? The guys just go in and out of the game whenever the coach decides?


Please speak slowly, using simple words. All I know about hockey is that it's played on ice and that has three periods

Don't feel bad about not having seen a hockey movie--I can count on one hand how many there are. (And that's not counting the Mighty Ducks sequels)

Anyway, to answer your questions.

1. Yes, it's *perfectly* legal to slam one another into the glass. In fact, it's encouraged! It's like tackling in football. Certain hits are penalized, though. Elbowing, boarding are 2 that usually are. You can hit each other in open ice, too. You can "play the body", but you're not supposed to hit anyone with your stick.

2. Hockey shifts are really, really short. A player can only go about a minute, maybe two because it's too exhausting. So they change up pretty quickly. Coaches will tell them when they need to go out or come in--you're right, the coach decides who sits and who goes.

There's really no firm line-up as to who is going to be out there at a given time, either. Coaches will throw out different player combinations out to try and get some good plays going, or to simply stop who the opposition has just sent out. In the good old days, there used to be set lines with nicknames, but you don't see that alot anymore.

Hope that helps.
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It does help!

But now I want more.

When you hit someone and it's "boarding," what does that mean?

So, the officials don't keep track of who is on the ice? I take it they only count the number of players, not the positions?
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I've only been to a handful of games (usually if the tickets are free!) but my sister is an avid Long Beach Ice Dogs fan...

She knows the game and the players! Martha, BAW's and Doozer61 should go to one of those games....Beers...
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It does help!

But now I want more.

When you hit someone and it's "boarding," what does that mean?

So, the officials don't keep track of who is on the ice? I take it they only count the number of players, not the positions?
"Boarding" is called at the discretion of the referee if a player is illegally and violently knocked into the boards. An illegal hit can be anything from hitting someone who is away from the puck, to hitting someone after a whistle or icing play, to hitting someone by leaving ones feat to do so, among other things. If these same things happen without contact with the boards, it is usually called "charging".

You're correct: The officials only keep track of the the number of players on the ice, because teams cannot put more than 5 skaters (not including the goalie) onto the ice during even strength play. The officials must make sure the teams don't put too many players on, for if they do, they will be assessed a "too many men" penalty, lasting 2 minutes.

(Even strength play is the "normal" 5 on 5 action we have when there are no penalties called. If a team has a penalty called, they lose a player for 2 minutes (or more), and thus it becomes a 5 on 4 advantage for the opposing team. This is known as a "powerplay" for the opposing team, because they have the advantage, and try to set up a 5 player box in the offensive zone, and use this "powerplay" to score a goal. The defending team has to "penatly kill" for 2 (or more) minutes.)

Feel free to ask any more questions...
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Is there one specific referee who keeps count of the # players??

Do the substitutes and the players they replace have a certain # of seconds to complete the exchange???

What is a two line pass and what makes it illegal???

And what is Icing...the way I see it, it appears to be like a "delay of game" tactic...is that correct?

I HONESTLY don't watch hockey but I've heard of these violations...
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1. Under the current system, there are two refs and two linesmen (way too many officials, in my opinion), but I'm not sure which one of them keeps track of the number of players. I think it's both of the refs' responsibility to do so.

2. The players don't have a time limit to make line changes. However, the players have to be careful not to touch the puck if there's more than 5 players on the ice during the exchange, for this could result in a "too many men" penalty. For example, if Naslund is skating back to the bench, and Linden jumps on the ice before Naslund has reached the bench, then Naslund cannot touch the puck. He must avoid contact with the play on his way back.

3. A two line pass is one of two offside calls in hockey. First, here's a break down of the lines in a hockey rink:

Goal line.....blue line.....red line (centre)....blue line.....goal line.

A two line pass results when the attacking team - who is moving up ice from their own side of the blue and red (centre) line - passes the puck across both these lines to one of their players on the other side of both lines. Basically, the puck cannot cross 2 lines to get to another teammate who is on the opposition's side of centre. If the puck deflects off the opposition before arriving to the teammate on the other side of the red line, then it is not a two line pass. (Gretzky and Lemieux were ace at getting breakaways this way....some called it cherrypicking...some called it the "high" game.)

3. Icing results when the attacking team shoots the puck into the opposition's zone before reaching the red (centre) line. If they do this, the whistle is blown, and they must go back to their own zone for a faceoff. So there is no penalty in the sense of a player going to the penalty box for 2 mintues. The rule is designed to deter teams from simply shooting the puck to the other end of the ice whenever they are under pressure in their own zone. Of course, many teams still do this because of their faceoff specialists. They don't fear losing the draw in their own zone, but it is still a risk - just not as risky as allowing the opposition to maintain pressure in their zone. To answer part of your question, in many ways, it is a delay of game tactic, for it allows players to briefly compose themselves when in danger or under pressure.
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Wow! That was useful. You Canadians are so articulate.
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Martha, BAW's and Doozer61 should go to one of those games..
I am so down for this!!



Except it can't be a school night.
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Wow! That was useful. You Canadians are so articulate.
Aw, shucks. Just doing my best to help out my American friends in understanding the best game in the world (at least in my opinion).

Do you Southern Californians cheer for the Kings or the Ducks? Which team would you go see?

West Coast teams rule!
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I imagine the LA folks go for the Kings, and the OC folks go for the Ducks, but I see a lot of Ice Dogs bumperstickers around. The Ducks and the Pond are close to me. Didn't the Ducks win something big, or come close to it recently?

But yes, West Coast anything rules!
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Yeah, the Ducks got to the Stanley Cup finals last spring, but lost to the NJ Devils.

It would be a fun hockey road trip to drive all the way down the Coast (or up the Coast) following the Canucks. Starting in Anaheim, LA, up to San Jose, and back to Vancouver for a home game. That would be quite expensive too!
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MG - thanks for all the info; I really never knew of those rules but somehow the game seems different...

Martha - I'll hit Doozer61 about getting some Ice Dog tickets for a Sat. or Sunday afternoon!!!

and p.s. I only cheer for who's winning!!!
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The Ice Dogs play at the convention center...there are games on Friday, 2/27 and Sat., 2/28...wanna go? pick one...I think Doozer can get us tickets at a cheaper rate...let me know!
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