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Old 08-30-2005, 03:36 PM   #121
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I have to say I'm a little surprised at the lack of response to this thread. This may be the worst natural disaster in American history. It's certainly the worst we have seen in our lifetimes. This disaster is on par with 9/11 and the Tsunami.

We have a major American city in ruins, under martial law, with an evacuation order for everybody to leave. Over a million people have been forced to leave to maybe never come back. If they do come back it will certainly not be the same. And New Orleans didn't even get the worst of the storm. Other smaller cities have been completely flattened.

The ramifications of this disaster are huge.
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I wouldn't say it's on a par with the tsunami, considering that killed 170,000+ people, but I too am surprised at the lack of responses: not that I'm one to talk, considering I've just been lurking, trying to keep up with the news but a bit too staggered by the enormity to really have much of value to contribute.
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The news coverage has not been as intense as I would have thought.

The cost and destruction are mind-boggling.
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This is all so incredibly sad
I just watched a reporter interviewing a man who lost his wife as they were trying to escape to their roof. She told him that he should take care of the children and the grandchildren and disappeared into the water. The reporter was holding back tears as she talked to him. He just kept saying "I don't know what we're gonna do, I just don't know" as a child clung to him and another stood nearby.
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Obviously the death toll is not the same due the forewarning and over a million people evacuating beforehand, and thank God for that. But in terms of complete destruction, this is right up there. But now for all those people who have evacuated, everything they have had in their lives is completely gone.

We've got people jumping off the Superdome, looters shooting cops, a major American city in complete chaos and destruction with the National Guard coming in to impose marital law. It is really something that will go down in history. It's going to take billions upon billions of dollars to try to build these cities back up.
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Clean water and food are one thing but electronics and designer jeans are another.
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This is horrible. I really didn't think the storm was that bad....I saw the news covering it but the news always goes overboard with hurricane coverage...the boy who cried wolf.

I live in southwestern Ohio(Dayton), and, while we're far too north to ever be hit by a hurricane, we definitely are getting the remenants...constant rain all day long.

I wish for the best for New Orleans.
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:07 PM   #128
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"To be honest with you, people who are oppressed all their lives, man, it's an opportunity to get back at society," he said.
don't even get me started on this "oppressed" bullshit.

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I wouldn't say it's on a par with the tsunami, considering that killed 170,000+ people, but I too am surprised at the lack of responses: not that I'm one to talk, considering I've just been lurking, trying to keep up with the news but a bit too staggered by the enormity to really have much of value to contribute.
like chizip said, we had warning. as early as friday (maybe even earlier, but first i heard about this was friday), they were telling people in new orleans to get the hell out.

plus, this is coming from someone who lives around there, you've got a lot of rural areas around there. new orleans is a tourist spot, but has a lot of permanent residents. as far as i know, biloxi and gulfport (the other two hardest hit cities) are mostly touristy towns. and a lot of mississippi is rural areas. once you get a little past the gulf coast, it's pretty rural until you get to jackson, then it gets kinda sparse again until you get to the tennessee border. i'm not too sure about louisiana's population because i've never been there, but i'm pretty sure they've got a bigger statewide population.

for anyone who cares, i wrote an update on katrina in my livejournal. it's not just about new orleans but also what happened in my town. of course we fared a lot better than everyone further south and my heart goes out to everyone who got stuck down there (those who had the chance to leave but didn't, i dunno).
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I wouldn't say it's on a par with the tsunami, considering that killed 170,000+ people,
but only a handful of them were Americans
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I'm really worried about what's going on at the Superdome. Cramped conditions, no power, ungodly heat, stench from sewage, tempers flaring and, yeah, the guy throwing himself off the the second level of the stadium infront of everyone... It's sounds like a pressure cooker about to explode.
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I honestly think it's a bit reactionary to be putting the hurricane on the same scale as the tsunami - I don't mean to diminish the severity of the hurricane, not at all (looking at pictures and reading reports has left me speechless), but the tsunami was one of those gigantic once-in-a-lifetime disasters. It impacted multiple countries on both sides of a huge ocean, and worse still, it utterly wiped out some of the world's poorest areas that simply don't have the resources to handle the recovery or deal with the disaster. I certainly wouldn't put the hurricane on that level, and the US has much better infrastructure in place to respond to this.

How this will impact the economy long-term remains to be seen ...
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This is all so incredibly sad
I just watched a reporter interviewing a man who lost his wife as they were trying to escape to their roof. She told him that he should take care of the children and the grandchildren and disappeared into the water. The reporter was holding back tears as she talked to him. He just kept saying "I don't know what we're gonna do, I just don't know" as a child clung to him and another stood nearby.
I just saw that and it brought tears to my eyes. I keep watching and keep thinking about how many thousands of people have nothing left or no home to go to. I'm really afraid that the count of casualties will only go up as the clean up starts. There are still people being rescued from roofs in New Orleans so it makes me wonder how many people were left in their homes.
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While this may not be as expansive as the Tsunami was and that with the hurricane we did have enough warning to evacuate cities and get people as much out of harms way as possible this is most likely one of the worst natural disasters that we've suffered here in the US so in essence it is our version or at least feels like our version of the Tsunami.
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Axver is right here. What is happening in New Orleans is absolutely horrible, but putting it on scale with a disaster that killed hundreds of thousands of people in some of the poorest parts of the world with the least amount of resources available to rebuild houses and homes etc. is not appropriate. If we should try to find some kind of comfort right now, it should be in the fact that the U.S., luckily, have the resources to respond to this in the quickest possible way. Although it is, of course, still a horrifying disaster that will haunt these people the rest of their lives.
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Axver is right here. What is happening in New Orleans is absolutely horrible, but putting it on scale with a disaster that killed hundreds of thousands of people in some of the poorest parts of the world with the least amount of resources available to rebuild houses and homes etc. is not appropriate. If we should try to find some kind of comfort right now, it should be in the fact that the U.S., luckily, have the resources to respond to this in the quickest possible way. Although it is, of course, still a horrifying disaster that will haunt these people the rest of their lives.
i agree, to an extent. i think it's too premature to say whether or not this is on par with the tsunami, really. i mean sure the death toll won't equal that of the tsunami, these cities had the opportunity to evacuate. and yes, we have the means to rebuild moreso than other countries. but still, it hurts the way some are practically dismissing this because it's somehow not severe enough.

however, i wish people would remember new orleans isn't the only city that was hit by this. cnn are in the three worst cities and all three are equally as bad. the cities are just levelled.
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