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Old 08-31-2005, 01:47 AM   #166
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I was wondering.....to what extent do you guys think this has got to do with global warming?
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my husband brought that up as well
GB apparently doesn't believe in it, or not much for that matter


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[q]White House to tap reserves
Energy Secretary Bodman says U.S. will lend oil to refiners hurt by Hurricane Katrina.
August 31, 2005: 7:59 AM EDT
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NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Department of Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman said in a series of televised interviews Wednesday that the White House plans on tapping the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve to help refiners hurt by Hurricane Katrina.

Bodman said in the interviews that officials have not determined the amount of crude oil that will be drawn from stockpiles, but that it would be a loan to refiners.

"The SPR was put in place specifically for this kind of an event," Bodman said in one interview. "We now have, in some instances, problems with getting crude to some refineries."

The reserve is the government's emergency stockpile of crude oil, which is overseen by the Energy Department. The oil reserves are estimated at more than 700 million barrels stored in underground caverns in Louisiana and Texas.

U.S. crude oil prices dipped 25 cents to $69.56 following Bodman's comments. Crude prices jumped $2.61 a barrel Tuesday before settling at $69.81.

Hurricane Katrina slammed into Louisiana and Mississippi on Monday, halting crude oil production in the Gulf of Mexico, which accounts for roughly a quarter of U.S. oil output. Nine refineries were also closed along the coast due to the storm, Reuters reported Tuesday.

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A girl at the Ryan Adams board posted this:

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Subject: My life was ripped away this week

Hey everyone. I just got back online for the first time since I left my home in New Orleans on Sunday.

I evacuated to Texas with a bunch of random people... roomates, neighbors, co-workers. we got out at pretty much the least minute. it took 15 hours to get to Houston (about 300 miles, normally about 5 hours.) there was major panic and rushing to get out as fast as possible, so there was no time to pack really... of course looking back on it, had I known I would have no place to return to, I would have spent a few more minutes getting things together that are not replaceable - photos and such. as it stands, i have nothing to my name right now except 5 days' worth of clothes. I have no job, no money, no home and can't get in touch with any of my friends and family who stayed behind.

I'm not even sure why I am posting this here... I guess this is a familiar and comforting place. Last friday night, my biggest concern was what movie we were going to see. Now I have to rethink my whole life. I feel very fortunate that I got out of NOLA, because there are people there now who are enduring much worse. At least I am in a safe place and lucky enough to have a friend who put me up for this week (I'm in corpus christi now.) the only thing I can do is hope I can buy enough gas to drive up to my sister's place in elizabeth, New Jersey.

The way I feel is completely undescribable. The sense of loss and devastation is comparable for me only to 9/11... but this is so much more heart wrenching becasue I know these people. Really, new orleans is a 'small town' in the sense that it's neighborly and full of a unique community spirit. i have so many people in my life who have now lost everything.

Please keep those people in your thoughts - the ones trapped in the city, waiting to be rescued. and the ones who have nothing to return to.
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[q]Katrina Prompts Global Support for Victims

By DANICA KIRKA, Associated Press Writer 48 minutes ago

VIENNA, Austria - From papal prayers to telegrams from China, the world reacted with an outpouring of compassion Wednesday for the victims of Hurricane Katrina in messages tinged by shock that a disaster of this scale could occur in the United States.
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Islamic extremists rejoiced in America's misfortune, giving the storm a military rank and declaring in Internet chatter that "Private" Katrina had joined the global jihad, or holy war. With "God's help," they declared, oil prices would hit $100 a barrel this year.

Venezuela's government, which has had tense relations with Washington, offered humanitarian aid and fuel if requested.

The storm was seen as an equalizer — proof that any country, weak or strong, can be victimized by a natural disaster. Images of flood-ravaged New Orleans earned particular sympathy in central Europe, where dozens died in raging floodwaters only days ago.

"Nature proved that no matter how rich and economically developed you are, you can't fight it," says Danut Afasei, a local official in Romania's Harghita county, where flooding killed 13 people last week.

Throughout Europe, concerned citizens lamented the loss of life and the damage caused to New Orleans, often described as one of North America's most "European" cities.

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President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor
Gerhard Schroeder sent messages of sympathy to
President Bush. Chirac, who has famously quarreled with Bush over the
Iraq war, addressed this letter, "Dear George."

Pope Benedict XVI said he was praying for victims of the "tragic" hurricane while China's President
Hu Jintao expressed his "belief that that the American people will definitely overcome the natural disaster and rebuild their beautiful homeland."

Britain's
Queen Elizabeth II also sent a message to Bush saying she was "deeply shocked and saddened" at the devastation caused by the hurricane and expressing her condolences, "especially to the families of those who have lost their lives, to the injured and to all who have been affected by this terrible disaster."

The U.S. Embassy in Bern, Switzerland — a capital at the foot of the Alps hit by flooding last week — said calls were rushing in from Swiss individuals and institutions looking for a way to donate to relief efforts.

"We are getting calls from the Swiss public looking to express their condolences, (and) people are also asking for an account number where they can make donations," said spokesman Daniel Wendell.

The Internet-edition Vienna daily Der Standard had recorded 820 postings commenting on a front-page story on the hurricane. In one of the postings, signature "Emerald" asked where money could be donated to the victims, but the question sparked a debate about whether a rich country like the United States needed such aid.

In response, one posting, from signature "far out," argued that hurricane victims who are poor still needed support.

Amid the sympathy, however, there was criticism.

As U.S. military engineers struggled to shore up breached levees, experts in the Netherlands expressed surprise that New Orleans' flood systems failed to restrain the raging waters.

With half of the country's population of 16 million living below sea level, the Netherlands prepared for a "perfect storm" soon after floods in 1953 killed 2,000 people. The nation installed massive hydraulic sea walls.

"I don't want to sound overly critical, but it's hard to imagine that (the damage caused by Katrina) could happen in a Western country," said Ted Sluijter, spokesman for the park where the sea walls are exhibited. "It seemed like plans for protection and evacuation weren't really in place, and once it happened, the coordination was on loose hinges."

The sympathy was muted in some corners by a sense that the United States reaped what it sowed, since the country is seen as the main contributor to global warming.

Joern Ehlers, a spokesman for World Wildlife Fund Germany, said global warming had increased the intensity of hurricanes.

"The Americans have a big impact on the greenhouse effect," Ehlers said.

But Harlan L. Watson, the U.S. envoy for negotiations on climate change, denied any link between global warming and the strength of storms.

"Our scientists are telling us right now that there's not a linkage," he said in Geneva. "I'll rely on their information."

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Associated Press Writers Susanna Loof in Vienna, Bradley S. Klapper in Geneva, Alexander S. Higgins in Geneva, Anca Teodorescu in Bucharest, Romania and Toby Sterling in Amsterdam, Netherlands, contributed to this story.[/q]


and just a side note, gas around my university went up in price today to $3 for reg unleaded.
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I just read this e-mail from a fireman in Baton Rouge, who is in deep shit working for relief efforts in New Orleans...

" To my friends and family in San Diego, Boston, New York and Dallas as well as my brother firefighters everywhere... What you see on TV is NOTHING compared to what is going on here... Hell times TEN ! Please don't watch from the sidelines WE NEED HELP!!!!!!" Keith

















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Islamic extremists rejoiced in America's misfortune, giving the storm a military rank and declaring in Internet chatter that "Private" Katrina had joined the global jihad, or holy war. With "God's help," they declared, oil prices would hit $100 a barrel this year.

What in fuck is wrong with these people?

I'm so pissed at that I could scream.
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Ignore them............oh yeah, that's right we tried that allready *thinks of those I knew, lost on 9/11/01*
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Old 08-31-2005, 02:00 PM   #174
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What in fuck is wrong with these people?

I'm so pissed at that I could scream.
Here's a cue from our homegrown extremists:

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Gays 'Responsible' For New Orleans Devastation Group Claims
by Fidel Ortega 365Gay.com Miami Bureau

Posted: August 31, 2005 3:00 pm ET

(New Orleans, Louisiana) An evangelical Christian group that regularly demonstrates at LGBT events is blaming gays for hurricane Katrina.

Repent America says that God "destroyed" New Orleans because of Southern Decadence, the gay festival that was to have taken place in the city over the Labor Day weekend.

"Southern Decadence" has a history of filling the French Quarters section of the city with drunken homosexuals engaging in sex acts in the public streets and bars" Repent America director Michael Marcavage said in a statement Wednesday.

"Although the loss of lives is deeply saddening, this act of God destroyed a wicked city." Marcavage said. "From ‘Girls Gone Wild’ to ‘Southern Decadence’, New Orleans was a city that had its doors wide open to the public celebration of sin. May it never be the same."

"Let us pray for those ravaged by this disaster. However, we must not forget that the citizens of New Orleans tolerated and welcomed the wickedness in their city for so long," Marcavage said.

"May this act of God cause us all to think about what we tolerate in our city limits, and bring us trembling before the throne of Almighty God," Marcavage concluded.

As 365Gay.com reported on Tuesday, organizers for Southern Decadence have cancelled the event and are promising full ticket refunds.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said Wednesday that hundreds are known dead and the death toll will reach into the thousands. Some estimates, CNN reported, indicate the final death toll in New Orleans alone may top 100,000.

Water levels eased off slightly on Wednesday, but most of the city remains submerged and it is believed it could be months before the city is inhabitable.

Repent America most recently demonstrated at the Philadelphia Phillies tribute to gay fans earlier this month.

Last year 10 members of Repent America marched to an area near the front of a stage at Philadelphia's Outfest and began to yell Biblical passages.

Police attempted to get the protestors to move to to an area on the edge of the Outfest site. Instead they went deeper into the gay crowd. Using a bullhorn they condemned homosexuality. They then got into an argument with a group of Pink Angels, who screamed back.

It was at that point police intervened.

Four members of Repent America, including Marcavage, were charged with ethnic intimidation, criminal conspiracy and inciting to riot. The charges carry sentences up to 47 years behind bars. But, in court, a judge dismissed the charges saying the protestors were in a public park and police had violated the group's First Amendment right to free speech.

Marcavage has been arrested, detained or cited by police around the country since founding Repent America in 2002, including at a demonstration against same-sex marriages in San Francisco.
Nevermind that the gay part of New Orleans was probably the least damaged sector of the city.

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wow. some people's stupidity is utterly astounding.

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You've got to be kidding me. WTF is wrong with some of these people?
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wow. some people's stupidity is utterly astounding.

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According to my CNN Breaking News email:

10,000 more National Guard troops are being called up for duties on the Katrina-ravaged Gulf Coast

Hmmm, I thought I heard yesterday that most of the extra reserves were currently stationed in Iraq and not available to help out
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DAYS BEFORE "SOUTHERN DECADENCE" 8/31/05

PHILADELPHIA - Just days before "Southern Decadence", an annual homosexual celebration attracting tens of thousands of people to the French Quarters section of New Orleans, an act of God destroys the city.

"Southern Decadence" has a history of filling the French Quarters section of the city with drunken homosexuals engaging in sex acts in the public streets and bars. Last year, a local pastor sent video footage of sex acts being performed in front of police to the mayor, city council, and the media. City officials simply ignored the footage and continued to welcome and praise the weeklong celebration as being an "exciting event". However, Hurricane Katrina has put an end to the annual celebration of sin.

On the official "Southern Decadence" website (www.SouthernDecadence.com), it states that the annual event brought in "125,000 revelers" to New Orleans last year, increasing by thousands each year, and up from "over 50,000 revelers" in 1997. This year’s 34th annual "Southern Decadence" was set for Wednesday, August 31, 2005 through Monday, September 5, 2005, but due to massive flooding and the damage left by the hurricane, Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco has ordered everyone to evacuate the city.

The past three mayors of New Orleans, including Sidney Barthelomew, Marc H. Morial, and C. Ray Nagin, issued official proclamations welcoming visitors to "Southern Decadence". Additionally, New Orleans City Council made other proclamations recognizing the annual homosexual celebration.

"Although the loss of lives is deeply saddening, this act of God destroyed a wicked city," stated Repent America director Michael Marcavage. "From ‘Girls Gone Wild’ to ‘Southern Decadence’, New Orleans was a city that had its doors wide open to the public celebration of sin. May it never be the same," he continued.

New Orleans is also known for its Mardi Gras parties where thousands of drunken men revel in the streets to exchange plastic jewelry for drunken women to expose their breasts. This annual event sparked the creation of the "Girls Gone Wild" video series.

"Let us pray for those ravaged by this disaster. However, we must not forget that the citizens of New Orleans tolerated and welcomed the wickedness in their city for so long," Marcavage said. "May this act of God cause us all to think about what we tolerate in our city limits, and bring us trembling before the throne of Almighty God," Marcavage concluded.

"[God] sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust." (Matthew 5:45)
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and they probably voted for Bush too

Unbelievable. The sheer stupidity of people
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